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Sep 25, 2016
2:38:30pm

OGSuperfan All-American

The film never lies

here is a still shot (taken straight from ESPN3) of that play - that is about as full extension as you can get wearing football pads.

Sorry, it was clearly a poor poor throw by Taysom - it would be one thing if Mitchell did this while standing and just tried to reach over his head - but this is at a full leap plus stretching out - I blame the QB on this. Sorry about the quality, just a still from the video.

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My analysis of Taysom's 3 INTs after rewatching each play in slow motion.

CosmosCuzzn

9/25/16 12:05pm

If you watched Ty Detmer's career at BYU, that's who he is

Indy Coug

9/25/16 12:09pm

Agreed. I like the aggressiveness but I don't think we have an offense that is

CosmosCuzzn

9/25/16 12:13pm

Ty was a master at reading defenses

TNT

9/25/16 12:17pm

Wow, didn't realize he threw that many picks. Crazy he threw 28 INTs and still

Duke Silver

9/25/16 12:33pm

If the internet had existed in the early 80s fans would have convinced

srey

9/25/16 1:25pm

The last pick was deja vu to the end of the 91 Holiday Bowl

blucoug18

9/25/16 12:47pm

Any idea how many pic 6's he had his heisman year?

eyebleedblu

9/25/16 2:04pm

RE: If you watched Ty Detmer's career at BYU, that's who he is

BYUgeezer

9/25/16 4:44pm

Makes me wonder if this is why he didn't take the job w/Bronco..too conservative

RUNBYU1

9/25/16 6:01pm

Slo mo is often NOT your critical friend. Just something to consider.

mantis mutu

9/25/16 12:21pm

That is true. Just like police officers, it's easy to criticize players who have

CosmosCuzzn

9/25/16 12:29pm

Slo mo is more instructive of what shoulda been done in terms of assignments

mantis mutu

9/25/16 12:38pm

#1, is all Taysom. #2, Taysom, but less than people think. #3, same as #2.

CosmoK

9/25/16 12:32pm

ask any receiver who has played, to a man, they say Juergens should catch that

smokymountainrain

9/25/16 12:41pm

Completely disagree - Ball is sailing up still, Juergens is fully extended with

OGSuperfan

9/25/16 1:54pm

Actually yes, if it hits him in the hands it is most certainly "catchable."

Duke Silver

9/25/16 2:01pm

Mitchell does not have his arms fully extended. The pass is high but not 3-4

CosmosCuzzn

9/25/16 2:02pm

The film never lies

OGSuperfan

9/25/16 2:38pm

Ether way he was way too open for that to be an incompletion much less a pick

Beggar

9/25/16 3:08pm

That's a different angle then the one shown in the broadcast. From that angle

CosmosCuzzn

9/25/16 3:25pm

Agree, this would be an amazing catch for any receiver. It's on Taysom

Thundergun Express

9/25/16 3:26pm

Here's the angle I was looking at.

CosmosCuzzn

9/25/16 4:29pm

You've never played football have you

checoug

9/25/16 4:37pm

Yes I have

CosmosCuzzn

9/25/16 4:42pm

Disagree on #2. Jeurgens had both hands on the ball with palms facing outwards.

CosmosCuzzn

9/25/16 12:42pm

edited: #3 is all on Taysom, Hifo couldn't have done much more as he was running

Littlerich

9/25/16 12:46pm

This is the correct analysis. Thank you.

9/25/16 6:30pm

You could argue 3 was also bad play design or poor player execution

Beggar

9/25/16 12:57pm

Yep... I'm wondering if either Hifo ran his route to long

Adrielle

9/25/16 1:51pm

Disagree wholeheartedly on #3. I've rewatched it many times. The ball was rugh

idacoug

9/25/16 1:54pm

The defender tipped it up. It was put in a bad spot.

CosmosCuzzn

9/25/16 2:05pm

hmmm I don't think the WR had much of a chance.

thebruce

9/25/16 2:16pm

It's obvious you've never worn shoulder pads and a helmet.

slowhiteguy

9/25/16 3:03pm

Actually I have

CosmosCuzzn

9/25/16 3:20pm

Halloween costumes don't count

Dillinger

9/25/16 3:21pm

I played WR and TE in HS

CosmosCuzzn

9/25/16 3:27pm

Then you'd know that full arm extension isn't as easy and sometimes isn't possible.

slowhiteguy

9/25/16 3:28pm

Especially in shoulder pads. After taking the huge hit he took last week. That

Dillinger

9/25/16 3:30pm

The angle I was looking at looked like his elbows were bent and about level with

CosmosCuzzn

9/25/16 3:33pm

maybe that's as high as he can get them in his pads.

slowhiteguy

9/25/16 3:55pm

Sort of like the pass juergens caught last year to win the game against Boise St.

MacGyver

9/25/16 6:33pm

I wish all my mistakes were microanalyzed like this to abdicate myself from

nashty

9/25/16 4:06pm

LOL!! So true, OP sounded like some of these democratic strategist trying to

9/25/16 5:07pm

You obviously didn't read my post very well. I put plenty of blame on Taysom.

CosmosCuzzn

9/25/16 6:27pm

^Defendor^

9/25/16 6:29pm

Last year Tanner had Mitch Mathews to bail him out on a lot of 50/50 balls.

NewMexiCoug

9/25/16 7:28pm

My problem with INT #3...

BYU4eVeR

9/25/16 8:28pm

I agree with you on #2 and #3, however #1 was clearly on Taysom

CougarsFanSince80s

9/25/16 8:29pm

All three are poorly placed balls. #1 was a dumb panic play.

IronPotato

9/25/16 8:56pm

Good thing you have a day job because that analysis is a joke

DetmerForever

9/25/16 11:17pm

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