This isn't a fire Rose post at all. It's just a fact that we have above average talent, especially for the western U.S....we have an easy non-con sched, so we start at 10-2 in an average year, 9-4 this year which was a horrendous non-con. record.

There are 18 league games...my ward ball team could get to 11 wins in the WCC. That's 7 losses - 4 GU and SMC sweep, and still allows for 3 other trip ups, which is exactly what we have this year.

Any coach that can fog a mirror gets 20 wins a year at BYU....epciially in this league...maybe not in the old WAC or MWC, but in the WCC....definitely.