Yeah, Karnowski was using his shoulder and elbow up in Mika's shoulder

Feb 27, 2017
9:39:44pm

benny1982 All-American

to try to move around him. Not much Mika can do to defend that if the refs decide that it's not egregious enough to call a hook on Karnowski, so Mika did what he had to to prevent Karnowski from putting the ball up.

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Mika's flagrant wasn't.

Iman23

2/27/17 9:15pm

Sure it was.

RalphWiggam

2/27/17 9:16pm

A foul below the waist - how can that be flagrant? Karnowski just flopped becaus

Iman23

2/27/17 9:20pm

1 - It wasn't below the waist. It was on his arm. 2 - "above the waist" is

benny1982

2/27/17 9:23pm

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Abe Froman

2/27/17 9:40pm

Oh good grief, that's not what I said. The foul didn't occur below his waist

benny1982

2/27/17 9:42pm

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Abe Froman

2/27/17 9:47pm

Sorry. Didn't see the joke. I get so used to people on here saying really

benny1982

2/27/17 9:48pm

Why can't a foul below the waist be flagrant? He made no play on the ball.

cougfanblue

2/27/17 9:23pm

The crotch is below the waist, and a knee to the crotch is a flagrant foul.

jdub

2/27/17 9:51pm

What if ball contact occurred first?

Cthack1

2/28/17 1:04am

you're going to have to be more specific.

jdub

2/28/17 7:51am

Excessive contact doesn't have to be above the waist #1. #2 there was no

TheLoneCougar

2/28/17 7:56am

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JimmyZ

2/28/17 7:54am

25 years ago it wasn't a flagrant but now that gets called 9 times out 10

rov

2/27/17 9:18pm

Even 25 years ago you had to pretend to be going after the ball.

kccougar

2/27/17 9:21pm

Bill Laimbeer wouldn't survive in basketball today

Mark320

2/27/17 9:30pm

He didn't make a play on the ball. That's the definition of a flagrant foul.

dilbert

2/27/17 9:20pm

Flagrant 1 is the same as the old "intentional foul." Mika's foul clearly qualifies.

roseyscenario

2/27/17 9:25pm

Yes, it was obviously intentional and done on purpose

PortlandCoug

2/27/17 9:37pm

Corbin made the giant look slow; Mika made him look petrified. In

mantis mutu

2/28/17 12:57am

Yes, and Mika was instructed to do it so that K. didn't get going again

PortlandCoug

2/27/17 9:30pm

Proof that he was instructed to do it?

benny1982

2/27/17 9:32pm

Just watch the reaction, it's obvious

PortlandCoug

2/27/17 9:36pm

Ha ha. No.

benny1982

2/27/17 9:37pm

You can disagree all you want but it was intentional and did not

PortlandCoug

2/27/17 9:41pm

Of course it was intentional. But not for some conspiratorial reason.

benny1982

2/27/17 9:43pm

Coaches tell players all the time to foul, have you not watched the NBA?

PortlandCoug

2/27/17 9:46pm

Wrong. Mika got beat on the play and he was tired of getting hooked all night

TheLoneCougar

2/28/17 9:08am

You mean this reaction?

dilbert

2/27/17 9:43pm

I thought it was a reaction to getting hit with Karnowski's shoulder one more

dilbert

2/27/17 9:37pm

Yeah, Karnowski was using his shoulder and elbow up in Mika's shoulder

benny1982

2/27/17 9:39pm

Since it was so obviously done on purpose it looked very premeditated

PortlandCoug

2/27/17 9:44pm

Oh, ok. Now I understand what you are saying.

dilbert

2/27/17 9:47pm

The way you say it is very different from how he seems to be saying it.

benny1982

2/27/17 9:50pm

I never said Rose told him to intentionally foul anyone

PortlandCoug

2/27/17 9:52pm

You weren't really all that clear in your meaning, so it was pretty easy

benny1982

2/27/17 9:53pm

Fair enough

PortlandCoug

2/27/17 9:55pm

Yeah, it wasn't a sweep the leg moment, just foul him so he doesn't

PortlandCoug

2/27/17 9:50pm

If you had said it that way to begin with, I would have never disagreed.

benny1982

2/27/17 9:52pm

Yes, that's all I was saying

PortlandCoug

2/27/17 9:53pm

I think this is a half truth. I think the coaches told him he had no fouls, so

QBarrister

2/28/17 8:33am

Flagrant but not dirty. It was a good play, and correctly officiated.

CalGTR

2/27/17 10:51pm

Exactly. It was textbook flagrant, but with no intent to harm (or really any

spoxjox

2/27/17 11:08pm

Mika told me on Sunday that because he pulled him down with 2 hands instead

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