I see that point. I guess I am talking to those who act like if Mika leaves we go 12-17 next year. I still see 20+ wins "at least" even if he goes. It all depends on how much the other players improve. What if Childs makes the same kind of improvement from his Fr year to his SO year that Mika made? If childs goes for 17 and 10 next year, the team could make a run at the tourney again even without Mika.