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Aug 18, 2017
2:43:06pm

ColdFusion1989 Contributor

My thoughts...

Some of the matchups were against BYU QBs that didn't test the secondary beyond 10 yards very often. Hill and Nelson. I feel like the PIs happen more frequently in the deep secondary. They passed, but they were very short routes, not like Hall and Beck.
I would be curious to see how the Vegas Bowl PI rate compared to the 6 games prior to the losing streak.

Interesting stats! Good work.

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Time

Rivalry Pass Interference Numbers

climps

8/18/17 1:53pm

P12 refs for several of the games?

Byron McNertney

8/18/17 1:57pm

P12 refs know who they work for.

Count Cougar

8/18/17 3:35pm

Only for the games in Provo. The myth that the PAC-12 uses its officials for

61_Shasta

8/18/17 9:28pm

It is pretty much thought of around the country. PAC 12 officials are biased.

Count Cougar

8/19/17 8:40am

Utah has a defensive backfield of NFL guys going up against our very non-NFL WRs

MantiCoug

8/18/17 1:59pm

Nah. The ~7 NFL players in the backfield had nothing to do with it

NarfUte

8/18/17 2:19pm

Were those guys benched against everyone else every year?

jaromp

8/18/17 2:35pm

Everyone else has better receivers than us.

MantiCoug

8/18/17 2:38pm

RE: Everyone else has better receivers than us.

climps

8/18/17 2:44pm

Or maybe it's time to come out of the proverbial closet

Adrielle

8/18/17 5:35pm

nah, go back & watch games before the current streak even when BYU had NFL WR

icecougar

8/18/17 3:06pm

Then we should do it too. Sounds like a great competitive advantage.

MantiCoug

8/18/17 3:21pm

He's talking about the 6 game streak. According to my quick espn search Collie

NarfUte

8/18/17 3:25pm

I'm pointing out that it's been Utah's MO for a lot longer than the streak...

icecougar

8/18/17 4:22pm

This. PIs sometimes result when the defender is out of position

Tricky

8/18/17 3:15pm

PI rates of 0.0238 vs 0.0109 with a sample size of 2,479 vs 274

Indy Coug

8/18/17 1:59pm

This. What's the p-value? Probably statistically significant.

Manutd

8/18/17 5:24pm

Utah uses the Seahawks strategy of "the refs can't call PI on every play."

SandYFan

8/18/17 2:00pm

**Bingo!!!** That ploy works in basketball too. Refs don't want to appear to...

icecougar

8/18/17 3:13pm

College very seldom calls off the ball PI or holding

I'mBatman

8/18/17 4:26pm

Utah hasn't been called for PI outside of the Vegas bowl?

formerly utesplease

8/18/17 2:16pm

Also what's up with the near 2000 differential in attempts

formerly utesplease

8/18/17 2:17pm

It rings true if you've been watching the games as a BYU fan.

Byron McNertney

8/18/17 2:18pm

I know that's one of your talking points

formerly utesplease

8/18/17 2:21pm

You think it's not verifiable that sports fans are biased?

Byron McNertney

8/18/17 2:26pm

What in the world

formerly utesplease

8/18/17 2:50pm

RE: What in the world

climps

8/18/17 3:02pm

Ah. I thought you were comparing each teams pass attempt numbers

formerly utesplease

8/18/17 3:29pm

RE: Ah. I thought you were comparing each teams pass attempt numbers

climps

8/18/17 3:36pm

Interesting.

Bob Vance

8/18/17 2:36pm

My thoughts...

8/18/17 2:43pm

Good points. Especially about Pi's being called on the deep balls. I was

Judge Judy

8/18/17 3:09pm

Did we get called for PIs less as well? Could have gone both ways if

BYUCLA

8/18/17 3:11pm

good points

icecougar

8/18/17 4:23pm

RE: My thoughts...

climps

8/18/17 4:26pm

Made up numbers are made up.

ironman1315

8/18/17 2:47pm

Good post.

8/18/17 3:38pm

Utah plays teams that pass better than BYU nowadays

ALUF 1990

8/18/17 3:48pm

and it's been awhile since BYU has had a QB who was a threat to throw deep...

icecougar

8/18/17 4:30pm

Maybe but no PI calls in 5 of the last 6 rivalry games seems like

I'mBatman

8/18/17 4:31pm

Only 2 of those 6 games would have had P12 refs, so 3 of the 5 no-PI games had

Scratch

8/18/17 7:57pm

Hi Kyle!

tony

8/18/17 4:34pm

If you grab against most teams, you don't stop that style for one.

Count Cougar

8/19/17 9:40am

You grab someone that is faster than you and ran past you. Not a big problem

ALUF 1990

8/19/17 11:56am

That is a flat out lie. BYU recievers arent that slow. Were talking tenth's of a

Count Cougar

8/19/17 5:23pm

So it doesn't help if the DB is 2 steps faster than the receiver. Got it.

ALUF 1990

8/19/17 8:09pm

I forget the Utes are so talented.

Count Cougar

8/19/17 9:03pm

Can you control for the refs involved? How often do they usually call PI? How

TailgateU

8/18/17 4:07pm

Try running the reverse numbers (how often defensive PI gets called on us)

dallinski

8/18/17 4:30pm

Great point, and much easier than my suggestion!

TailgateU

8/18/17 4:42pm

I was literally writing a comment for the same thing. Not that I'm

CougaRR4L

8/18/17 4:49pm

RE: Try running the reverse numbers (how often defensive PI gets called on us)

climps

8/18/17 4:52pm

Reverse racism.

Loon to the Moon

8/18/17 6:36pm

Utah will get flagged 38 times for P.I. this year. Stats always work that way.

brejol

8/18/17 6:49pm

With those targeting calls last year it wouldn't surprise me at all if the

8/18/17 7:50pm

You mean the refs that BYU provided for the game? From the Big 12?

Scratch

8/18/17 8:03pm

Had no idea it was B12, I'm used to the opponent's conference providing refs

8/20/17 3:39pm

What i find more concerning is that all 3 PI calls came

Y05

8/18/17 8:38pm

Yeah on the BYU receiver.

ironman1315

8/18/17 10:04pm

Disagree.

Y05

8/19/17 8:31pm

You're free to. But neutral commenters disagreed.

ironman1315

8/19/17 8:35pm

Try running the same numbers but only include games with BYU v P5 and

StalwartBraveTrue

8/19/17 12:49am

Speed. They have it, we don't. They don't need to commit a penalty to stop us.

Thug Mormons

8/19/17 8:07am

We really haven't tried to air it out much against Utah. 15 was an exceotion

BlueForLife

8/19/17 9:10am

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