Utah plays teams that pass better than BYU nowadays

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Aug 18, 2017
3:48:38pm

ALUF 1990 All-American

Utah plays teams that pass better than BYU nowadays

Does it surprise you that Utah gets more PIs against PAC QBs??? It shouldn't. Many of the QBs are much better than recent BYU QBs and the receivers are at a completely different level above BYU on almost all of the PAC teams. Better olines, better coaching, etc.

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Rivalry Pass Interference Numbers

climps

8/18/17 1:53pm

P12 refs for several of the games?

Byron McNertney

8/18/17 1:57pm

P12 refs know who they work for.

Count Cougar

8/18/17 3:35pm

Only for the games in Provo. The myth that the PAC-12 uses its officials for

61_Shasta

8/18/17 9:28pm

It is pretty much thought of around the country. PAC 12 officials are biased.

Count Cougar

8/19/17 8:40am

Utah has a defensive backfield of NFL guys going up against our very non-NFL WRs

MantiCoug

8/18/17 1:59pm

Nah. The ~7 NFL players in the backfield had nothing to do with it

NarfUte

8/18/17 2:19pm

Were those guys benched against everyone else every year?

jaromp

8/18/17 2:35pm

Everyone else has better receivers than us.

MantiCoug

8/18/17 2:38pm

RE: Everyone else has better receivers than us.

climps

8/18/17 2:44pm

Or maybe it's time to come out of the proverbial closet

Adrielle

8/18/17 5:35pm

nah, go back & watch games before the current streak even when BYU had NFL WR

icecougar

8/18/17 3:06pm

Then we should do it too. Sounds like a great competitive advantage.

MantiCoug

8/18/17 3:21pm

He's talking about the 6 game streak. According to my quick espn search Collie

NarfUte

8/18/17 3:25pm

I'm pointing out that it's been Utah's MO for a lot longer than the streak...

icecougar

8/18/17 4:22pm

This. PIs sometimes result when the defender is out of position

Tricky

8/18/17 3:15pm

PI rates of 0.0238 vs 0.0109 with a sample size of 2,479 vs 274

Indy Coug

8/18/17 1:59pm

This. What's the p-value? Probably statistically significant.

Manutd

8/18/17 5:24pm

Utah uses the Seahawks strategy of "the refs can't call PI on every play."

SandYFan

8/18/17 2:00pm

**Bingo!!!** That ploy works in basketball too. Refs don't want to appear to...

icecougar

8/18/17 3:13pm

College very seldom calls off the ball PI or holding

I'mBatman

8/18/17 4:26pm

Utah hasn't been called for PI outside of the Vegas bowl?

formerly utesplease

8/18/17 2:16pm

Also what's up with the near 2000 differential in attempts

formerly utesplease

8/18/17 2:17pm

It rings true if you've been watching the games as a BYU fan.

Byron McNertney

8/18/17 2:18pm

I know that's one of your talking points

formerly utesplease

8/18/17 2:21pm

You think it's not verifiable that sports fans are biased?

Byron McNertney

8/18/17 2:26pm

What in the world

formerly utesplease

8/18/17 2:50pm

RE: What in the world

climps

8/18/17 3:02pm

Ah. I thought you were comparing each teams pass attempt numbers

formerly utesplease

8/18/17 3:29pm

RE: Ah. I thought you were comparing each teams pass attempt numbers

climps

8/18/17 3:36pm

Interesting.

Bob Vance

8/18/17 2:36pm

My thoughts...

8/18/17 2:43pm

Good points. Especially about Pi's being called on the deep balls. I was

Judge Judy

8/18/17 3:09pm

Did we get called for PIs less as well? Could have gone both ways if

BYUCLA

8/18/17 3:11pm

good points

icecougar

8/18/17 4:23pm

RE: My thoughts...

climps

8/18/17 4:26pm

Made up numbers are made up.

ironman1315

8/18/17 2:47pm

Good post.

8/18/17 3:38pm

Utah plays teams that pass better than BYU nowadays

ALUF 1990

8/18/17 3:48pm

and it's been awhile since BYU has had a QB who was a threat to throw deep...

icecougar

8/18/17 4:30pm

Maybe but no PI calls in 5 of the last 6 rivalry games seems like

I'mBatman

8/18/17 4:31pm

Only 2 of those 6 games would have had P12 refs, so 3 of the 5 no-PI games had

Scratch

8/18/17 7:57pm

Hi Kyle!

tony

8/18/17 4:34pm

If you grab against most teams, you don't stop that style for one.

Count Cougar

8/19/17 9:40am

You grab someone that is faster than you and ran past you. Not a big problem

ALUF 1990

8/19/17 11:56am

That is a flat out lie. BYU recievers arent that slow. Were talking tenth's of a

Count Cougar

8/19/17 5:23pm

So it doesn't help if the DB is 2 steps faster than the receiver. Got it.

ALUF 1990

8/19/17 8:09pm

I forget the Utes are so talented.

Count Cougar

8/19/17 9:03pm

Can you control for the refs involved? How often do they usually call PI? How

TailgateU

8/18/17 4:07pm

Try running the reverse numbers (how often defensive PI gets called on us)

dallinski

8/18/17 4:30pm

Great point, and much easier than my suggestion!

TailgateU

8/18/17 4:42pm

I was literally writing a comment for the same thing. Not that I'm

CougaRR4L

8/18/17 4:49pm

RE: Try running the reverse numbers (how often defensive PI gets called on us)

climps

8/18/17 4:52pm

Reverse racism.

Loon to the Moon

8/18/17 6:36pm

Utah will get flagged 38 times for P.I. this year. Stats always work that way.

brejol

8/18/17 6:49pm

With those targeting calls last year it wouldn't surprise me at all if the

8/18/17 7:50pm

You mean the refs that BYU provided for the game? From the Big 12?

Scratch

8/18/17 8:03pm

Had no idea it was B12, I'm used to the opponent's conference providing refs

8/20/17 3:39pm

What i find more concerning is that all 3 PI calls came

Y05

8/18/17 8:38pm

Yeah on the BYU receiver.

ironman1315

8/18/17 10:04pm

Disagree.

Y05

8/19/17 8:31pm

You're free to. But neutral commenters disagreed.

ironman1315

8/19/17 8:35pm

Try running the same numbers but only include games with BYU v P5 and

StalwartBraveTrue

8/19/17 12:49am

Speed. They have it, we don't. They don't need to commit a penalty to stop us.

Thug Mormons

8/19/17 8:07am

We really haven't tried to air it out much against Utah. 15 was an exceotion

BlueForLife

8/19/17 9:10am

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