White people used to own slaves. Germans had concentration camps.

Sep 23, 2017
9:02:07pm

Ulysses14 Starter

Only the individuals who took part in those things should be held responsible.

No one needs to feel guilty for sins the sins of others.

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Ulysses14

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Just a reminder that the Penn State football program enabled a child rapist for

SandYFan

9/23/17 8:53pm

The current coaches, players and fans had nothing to do with that

Indy Coug

9/23/17 8:54pm

They honored Paterno at a game last year and they deny anything happened.

SandYFan

9/23/17 8:56pm

The only thing I ever saw that implicated Joe was an e-mail that wasn’t

gwalker

9/23/17 8:59pm

He knew before the 2001 incident. Two weeks ago a new report came out reporting

IceCreamButt

9/23/17 9:07pm

Read the Freeh report. Pretty damning

BlackBart

9/23/17 9:25pm

I am very skeptical about the Freeh Report. It was put together hastily and IMO

gwalker

9/23/17 10:06pm

Here is the problem. An assistant coach, mike mcqueary, saw Sandusky rape a child and reported it to Paterno. He

macaroni

9/23/17 10:12pm

Hastily? Engages in November, released the following July

BlackBart

9/23/17 10:19pm

OK. My memory is fuzzy. Not hasty.

gwalker

9/23/17 10:23pm

Also Paterno passed away when the investigation was ongoing

BlackBart

9/23/17 10:30pm

Or could be that it was convenient to try to pin blame on a guy who wasn’t

gwalker

9/23/17 10:36pm

I'm not personally convicting the guy and I doubt Freeh's client

BlackBart

9/23/17 10:49pm

You need to read the report. He knew. He knew and let Snadusky take a kid with him to a bowl game.

macaroni

9/23/17 9:56pm

And they constantly whine how hard the NCAA was on them despite the punishment

IceCreamButt

9/23/17 9:01pm

One of the big dilemmas in college sports. USC reaps the benefits of foul play

blackandblue

9/23/17 8:57pm

I view it more political. USC's actions were incredibly minor compared to PSU

BlackBart

9/23/17 9:28pm

And now his son is accused.

Turnpike Lane

9/23/17 8:54pm

Ugh. That probably man's the son was abused.

Ragnar Danneskjold

9/23/17 8:57pm

Son confessed iirc. Guilty and awaiting sentencing.

thebruce

9/23/17 8:59pm

True but what more do you do about it?

Y'zFan

9/23/17 8:55pm

I just want us to be aware. People are forgetting and that's wrong.

SandYFan

9/23/17 8:58pm

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Cretin

9/23/17 8:55pm

Heaven forbid we condemn child rape because no one is perfect.

SandYFan

9/23/17 8:56pm

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Cretin

9/23/17 8:57pm

Because Penn State still honored paterno at half time last year. They

IceCreamButt

9/23/17 9:02pm

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Cretin

9/23/17 9:04pm

Better than nothing. Some on here still defend him/PSU so it helps.

IceCreamButt

9/23/17 9:09pm

Most people - players, fans and even coaches over the years had nothing to do

gwalker

9/23/17 8:55pm

The Penn state program and fans deny anything happened. They are guilty.

SandYFan

9/23/17 8:57pm

That is a false and idiotic statement

Ulysses14

9/23/17 8:59pm

Because you say so? Nope.

SandYFan

9/23/17 9:00pm

Hmmm. Except I know plenty of PSU fans who say otherwise. You live in PA too?

Ulysses14

9/23/17 9:03pm

Visit the college football subreddit. Plenty of deniers there.

SandYFan

9/23/17 9:04pm

So, why did they take down Paterno's statue?

Brigham

9/23/17 9:16pm

Not only did they enable but aided and abetted

BigYfan

9/23/17 8:56pm

This reads like what every idiot has said about us for our policies going back

Cougarfan777

9/23/17 9:00pm

This is very recent history. It's fair to keep it relevant.

SandYFan

9/23/17 9:01pm

RE: This is very recent history. It's fair to keep it relevant.

Cougarfan777

9/23/17 9:19pm

White people used to own slaves. Germans had concentration camps.

Ulysses14

9/23/17 9:02pm

This is recent history, not something centuries old.

SandYFan

9/23/17 9:03pm

Something about the second article of faith...Adams something something...

RalphWiggam

9/23/17 9:05pm

Everyone that knew about it has been fired.

thebruce

9/23/17 9:06pm

They honored paterno at half time last year, they still basically worship the

IceCreamButt

9/23/17 9:19pm

You do realize he was there 61 years right? As a coach. I said 61. It's hard to

Cougarfan777

9/23/17 9:41pm

His silence allowed his friend to continue to molest children. But hey he

IceCreamButt

9/23/17 10:37pm

The Freeh report has been disputed. Look, not saying he is innocent or guilty,

Cougarfan777

9/23/17 10:58pm

Again, McQueary testified in court that he saw Sandusky raping a kid in the shower. He told Paterno. Paterno did nothing

macaroni

9/23/17 11:09pm

Disputed by PA politicians and those connected to the university?

BlackBart

9/23/17 11:10pm

I'm not taking one side or the other, just pointing out why it's such a

Cougarfan777

9/23/17 11:19pm

Don't let Deleted see this.

Zach Morris

9/23/17 10:11pm

Quit being annoying.

Ocho Cuatro

9/23/17 9:02pm

I know it's weird but there's a reporter saying the whole this was fabricated...

Shore10

9/23/17 9:05pm

You can't post something like this and include no evidence or links.

SandYFan

9/23/17 9:07pm

Links

Shore10

9/23/17 9:12pm

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