And to clarify (just in case but at the risk of over explaining),

Mar 19, 2018
7:29:00am

gwalker All-American

winning the NCAA tournament before the 1960s wasn’t synonymous with “national champion” the way it is today. It was more like boxing with different federations awarding different title belts.

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In 1951, some of the top rated teams didn’t play in the NIT because black

gwalker

3/19/18 6:42am

That doesn't change the fact that Kentucky was better and was named national champion.

RSL

3/19/18 6:47am

Retroactively. The concept of “national champion” wasn’t the same then as it is

gwalker

3/19/18 6:54am

*1944 Utah

CopperLix

3/19/18 7:25am

And to clarify (just in case but at the risk of over explaining),

gwalker

3/19/18 7:29am

The funny think is that BYU also played in the NCAAs that same season and lost.

RSL

3/19/18 7:34am

They did. Picture a team losing the ACC or Big East tournament and then winning

gwalker

3/19/18 7:39am

No, they lost in the actual NCAA tournament. Not in a conf championship.

Cougtruth

3/19/18 11:14am

Right. It was an analogy. There were no conference tournaments in 1951 that I’m

gwalker

3/19/18 11:17am

If a team lost a playin or first game in the NCAA tourney and then was selected

Cougtruth

3/20/18 10:39pm

Are you saying the NCAA tournament still didn't allow black players in 1951?

chilango

3/19/18 9:09am

I don’t know that it was an NCAA policy. It may have been that the NCAA happened

gwalker

3/19/18 10:55am

THIs wiki article says the NCAA tournament was integrated in 1950, so it must

gwalker

3/19/18 11:11am

Saw an article in Indianapolis paper about A player named Clarence Walker.

Cougtruth

3/19/18 11:30am

Indiana State didn't play in the tournament in 1948. There were several black players in the NIT before the NCAA ever

Gentleman Stan

3/19/18 11:57am

By practice, yes they were allowed in as of 1948 . But they basically didn't

Gentleman Stan

3/19/18 11:50am

Interesting. Also, "...the NIT, which was still equal to the NCAA tournament

chilango

3/19/18 12:27pm

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