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Jan 11, 2024
7:36:47am

Avery Truly Addicted User

This is terrible news for the 'but they cheated' crowd.

NCAA President Charlie Baker: Nobody can say Michigan didn't win national title 'fair and square'

NCAA President Charlie Baker says Michigan won the national championship fair and square. He also defended his decision to inform the school and the Big Ten during the season that the NCAA was investigating a potential scouting and sign-stealing scheme.

https://apnews.com/article/ncaa-michigan-baker-f3812a0dc88d1f0814aaf252b992a979

NCAA president says Michigan earned football national title 'fair and square' - ESPN

NCAA president Charlie Baker said Michigan's football national title was earned "fair and square," despite an ongoing investigation into sign-stealing.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39282077/ncaa-president-says-michigan-earned-football-national-title-fair-square

NCAA president Charlie Baker explains 'unusual' decision to reveal Michigan sign-stealing investigation

By revealing the sign-stealing probe to the world midway through the season, Baker believes it legitimized Michigan's run to a national title.

https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa-president-charlie-baker-explains-unusual-decision-to-reveal-michigan-sign-stealing-investigation-003318654.html

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This is terrible news for the 'but they cheated' crowd.

Avery

Jan 11, 7:36am

"Nobody can say?

Courtimedes

Jan 11, 7:38am

lol, He didn't take CB moralists into account.

Avery

Jan 11, 7:46am

Not just CB.

Japan Coug

Jan 11, 7:50am

rant all you like. Take to the internet. Shout it. I'm sorry for your loss.

Avery

Jan 11, 7:53am

It’s silly to try to claim that only CB moralists care about cheating. It’s a

Japan Coug

Jan 11, 7:56am

I believe you. This is a wide spread sentiment among people.

Avery

Jan 11, 8:02am

College football fans and sportswriters don’t matter, in college football?

Japan Coug

Jan 11, 8:03am

not random, narrow minded, internet vigilantes...no.

Avery

Jan 11, 8:08am

Are these guys random, narrow-minded internet vigilantes?

Japan Coug

Jan 11, 8:13am

YES!

Avery

Jan 11, 8:14am

RE: yes

Japan Coug

Jan 11, 8:15am

Joe Scarborough is a noise making putz.

DawgHaus

Jan 11, 9:19am

Do "people" include Michigan who fired Stallions and suspended Harbaugh over it?

Corn Pop

Jan 11, 8:04am

no...and you may have worded that incorrectly.

Avery

Jan 11, 8:15am

So Stallions was fired for...........? Harbaugh was suspended for............?

Corn Pop

Jan 11, 8:17am

Stallions resigned amid the chaos...Harbaugh was suspended by the BigTen for

Avery

Jan 11, 8:22am

Nobody said there was a rule against sign stealing. Where'd you get that idea?

Corn Pop

Jan 11, 8:27am

I got that idea from people insisting Michigan were quote "cheaters."

Avery

Jan 11, 8:31am

That's not why they were cheaters.

Corn Pop

Jan 11, 8:34am

good to know.

Avery

Jan 11, 8:35am

Michigan are cheaters because they cheated. Multiple times.

Japan Coug

Jan 11, 8:37am

Hey so I'll be level with you...Michigan broke the in-person advanced scouting

Avery

Jan 11, 8:47am

Additionally, Connor Stallions scheme may not be the only messed up thing in the

Avery

Jan 11, 9:06am

They did cheat, and no, we didn't expect the NCAA to do anything about it

Corn Pop

Jan 11, 7:56am

link to BIG "neutering the NCAA?"

Avery

Jan 11, 8:09am

link to SEC "neutering the NCAA"? Why do you assume one and not the other?

Corn Pop

Jan 11, 8:15am

Are you asking why I didn't also ask about the SEC? Its cause

Avery

Jan 11, 8:21am

I wish they would just do it and quit pretending.

coolblue

Jan 11, 8:52am

It’s literally why the real name of power 5 is “autonomous 5” because they’ve

Jan 11, 11:24am

Because saying so over and over makes it so.

Accipiter

Jan 11, 8:08am

was his quote a repeat? Where did he say this before?

Avery

Jan 11, 8:11am

You mean the guy who wants to protect himself says stuff to protect himself?

stoils

Jan 11, 8:13am

Yes, and the border is secure because Mayorkas said so.

LifeLongLakerFan

Jan 11, 8:17am

So the NCAA was waiting to see how the season played out? If Michigan didn't

Y05

Jan 11, 8:18am

hmmm...I don't think that is what ANY of those articles said.

Avery

Jan 11, 8:26am

Ummm... the headline says ongoing investigation. That means, still investigating

NYC and Japan

Jan 11, 10:04am

Meanwhile, Central Michigan getting the death penalty for sign stealing

yahtzee

Jan 11, 8:26am

RE: Meanwhile, Central Michigan getting the death penalty for sign stealing

Accipiter

Jan 11, 9:25am

Oh how things are different between the P(pick a number) and the G5...

TrueBlue67

Jan 11, 9:21am

Is that Mr. Burns next to Harbaugh?

Great38

Jan 11, 9:22am

Baker is trying to avoid a Houston Astroesque fiasco that would

thirdgencoug

Jan 11, 9:39am

That makes him smarter than I originally thought. I agree that Scallions

Avery

Jan 11, 10:58am

During the Monica Lowinsky scandal, Bill Clinton was quoted as saying,

thirdgencoug

Jan 11, 11:07am

No he said “it depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is”

stoils

Jan 11, 11:10am

I stand corrected…

thirdgencoug

Jan 11, 11:12am

ah! I think I see what you're saying. Basically, 'if you break a rule = you're

Avery

Jan 11, 11:20am

For curiosity’s sake, when is willingly breaking a rule not cheating?

thirdgencoug

Jan 11, 12:08pm

off the top of my head, I can think of a half dozen scenarios

Avery

Jan 11, 1:11pm

Sooo, if for example a team was doing in person scouting outside of their own

thirdgencoug

Jan 11, 2:00pm

No... for 3 reasons

Avery

Jan 11, 2:24pm

That’s a lot of “because I said so” and not really based in fact

stoils

Jan 11, 2:42pm

In response to your three points:

thirdgencoug

Jan 11, 3:15pm

Specifically, you don't know if Stallions was successful...and even if he was

Avery

Jan 11, 3:22pm

responding to 2 and 3 that you added

Avery

Jan 11, 3:38pm

RE: No... for 3 reasons

Accipiter

Jan 11, 3:18pm

Then why did harbaugh get suspended TWICE?

davidmj10

Jan 11, 11:02am

so the NCAA actually didn't suspend Harbaugh (yet). The first suspension

Avery

Jan 11, 11:26am

Yeah good point. I still stand beside the fact he was suspended for a reason

davidmj10

Jan 11, 12:30pm

Shocking that they’d say that

I'mBatman

Jan 11, 12:38pm

I was going to say but Michigan did cheat. Apparently I can’t though.

davidmj10

Jan 11, 12:45pm

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