I just don't think it is in his character. I honestly don't think he thinks BYU helped him at all. It was his hard work,

Apr 17, 2024
9:51:20am

TheLoneCougar Adrielle?!

brilliance, tenacity, etc.

But wild speculation by me.

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Jay Drew on Burgess as an assistant HC. Interesting.

Mathew

Apr 16, 8:51pm

Seems like a no brainer for both sides, if KY wants to bring him on. But if it

Shinshin

Apr 16, 8:54pm

They didn’t say anything about Kentucky wanting him

Blue2thebone

Apr 16, 9:57pm

Kevin young not Kentucky

Julius Pepperwood

Apr 17, 12:21am

This is going to be an ongoing problem.

Roko's Basilisk

Apr 17, 6:33am

Yep. 😂

BackPacker

Apr 17, 8:08am

Weird that coaches didn’t want their guys to play for Pope when Pope’s players seem eager to follow him around.

Brisco

Apr 16, 8:55pm

It's dumb. Comes from Carlsens dad. BYU only offers 1 or 2 Utah kids per year,

Plato

Apr 16, 8:57pm

I know for a fact that it wasn't just Carlsen's dad

Adrielle

Apr 16, 9:46pm

Same here. I have no idea if it was justified, but def not the only one.

Nittany Cougar

Apr 16, 10:15pm

Are you saying that you have...RECEIPTS?!

HandwovenBox

Apr 17, 10:24am

One hickup from Chandler and he will sit on Pope’s bench. Pope too ruthless

fan32

Apr 17, 7:19am

Local kids loved Burgess. Not so much with Pope. And it's not just Carslen's dad

MHallDidNothingWr0ng

Apr 17, 7:34am

At least one person on this board is doing the math.

777

Apr 16, 10:58pm

Young has to be able to choose his own staff. Don't force anyone on him. If he wants Burgess...I am sure he can get him

RalphWiggam

Apr 16, 8:59pm

Wait, Burgess is making 255K? That's less than some players, probably.

runnincoug

Apr 16, 9:02pm

It was that coach from Indiana who first and foremost emphasized Utah getting

Plantagenet

Apr 16, 9:03pm

I’m just not buying all these little negative things I’m hearing about Pope

Rhubarb

Apr 16, 9:17pm

It's not just now coming out. This has been for a while.

ochobeeguy

Apr 16, 9:29pm

Link? Saying it repeatedly doesn’t make it true.

BlackBart

Apr 16, 9:38pm

The rumors had been out there for a couple years. I heard some of this myself, and not just from CB

Adrielle

Apr 16, 9:48pm

Emery, Glover went public. Plenty of behind the scenes from BYU and UVU

ochobeeguy

Apr 16, 10:05pm

What did Glover say? I have not heard

SoBlueitHurts

Apr 17, 2:10pm

I've been saying this for over a year now, but admittedly I have a neighbor in the AD who has shared a few things and

TheLoneCougar

Apr 16, 9:52pm

Oh, it's a bad thing

charles

Apr 16, 9:59pm

It is just who he is. He has goals and he wants to achieve them. He is a very driven individual and was great while here

TheLoneCougar

Apr 16, 10:05pm

What does that have to do with giving a shout out to the program that helped

fredetteaboutit13

Apr 16, 10:42pm

Why do you bother to be personally upset by it?

Michicoug

Apr 17, 5:02am

When all you care about is #1, do you think you're going to give a shout out to your previous school?

TheLoneCougar

Apr 17, 5:20am

I dunno. His postseason record alone makes him not great. Plus

Y'sAsterisk

Apr 16, 11:57pm

Mark Durrant's take on this on BYU Sports Nation was very similar

ssa

Apr 17, 7:57am

That is how I take it too. I don't love how he treated us, but it shouldn't be that surprising.

TheLoneCougar

Apr 17, 8:53am

Can’t be mad about any of it. We loved it when he did it to UVU. We would love

Alan Schaefer

Apr 16, 11:13pm

I’d say it’s a bad thing. I know lots of high achievers like Pope who are

BlooCoug

Apr 16, 11:27pm

I mean it seems like 3/4 of the people in the business world fit this

Alan Schaefer

Apr 16, 11:48pm

I’d say more like 30%, unless you’re in consulting, investment banking, private

BlooCoug

Apr 16, 11:55pm

I meant just me experience. Hopefully I’m just overly cynical.

Alan Schaefer

Apr 17, 12:43am

I'm not disagreeing with you. My point is we've kinda known this is Pope. So set expectations accordingly.

TheLoneCougar

Apr 17, 5:20am

No it is a bad thing. It’s classless

BYU '80

Apr 17, 12:12am

I don't disagree with you.

TheLoneCougar

Apr 17, 5:21am

Pope will get the karma coming to him. Everybody that ruthless does

fan32

Apr 17, 7:22am

Karma for doing what wrong? Not saying thank you?

TheLoneCougar

Apr 17, 9:25am

To me, that’s the only thing he did wrong. Could’ve figured out a way to say

Alan Schaefer

Apr 17, 9:48am

I just don't think it is in his character. I honestly don't think he thinks BYU helped him at all. It was his hard work,

TheLoneCougar

Apr 17, 9:51am

Well I hope he’s not that arrogant or narcisstic. I will say I stopped listening

Alan Schaefer

Apr 17, 8:32pm

I'd speculate that of the things he butted heads with the AD about was NIL

BackPacker

Apr 17, 8:18am

Agreed. Be happy for him landing his dream job.

Hammurabi

Apr 16, 9:53pm

I like Pope, but these little gripes have been well documented for years about

palangi

Apr 16, 11:01pm

It’s been talked a lot that many HS and AAU coaches were not fond of Pope. Also

Coug-Ida

Apr 16, 11:06pm

I’ve heard about these gripes before. Erickson is another

BYU '80

Apr 17, 12:12am

Why not bring Juddy back

jlhazlewood

Apr 17, 2:26am

How much was BYU paying Burgess before he left?

Zoobieman

Apr 17, 3:33am

Just pot stirring by Jay. I highly doubt there's ANY basis to this. Pope don't want Burgess on UK's staff & I doubt

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