i can tell you that the story with my buddy came straight from his mouth. he was upset his dad committed him to utah on the spot like that. 'Mo Murda' and 'East 1999' was used to manipulte his parents. and in the poly community if your dad believes this is the best decision for you then you have to live with it and go with it. his parents were very drunk, and it did work on them.

as for Unga there was an article written about it right after he de-committed and committed to the "Y". it had his own words in it too.

if you really think stuff like this doesn't happen then you my friend are very nieve to the situation and what goes on up there. alot of this is part of the reason that there are members on the local AA that want sport abollished at utah.