If BYU fudges the numbers, they would get in serious trouble.

Dec 3, 2012
11:13:37am

HammerBlue

They could lose their ability to provide federal financial aid to students and possibly to participate in intercollegiate athletics. There is no reason to be skeptical at these numbers.

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According to the US Dep. of Education BYU FB made $22.4M in 2011 (updated)

inertiaman

12/3/12 6:56am

Are the new numbers up?

BYUMizzou

12/3/12 6:58am

Gross Revenue was up $8 million for our first year in Indy football

BYUMizzou

12/3/12 7:01am

But Ute fans all tell me BYU made less than $4M from the ESPN deal.

kccougar

12/3/12 7:02am

How much would USC make if they could dump off Utah?

jrifkin48

12/3/12 7:25am

The Pac needed two warm bodies to get a CCG

BYUMizzou

12/3/12 7:30am

Ute fans closer than BYU fans

zuxvon

12/3/12 9:10am

Here are the old numbers for reference:

BYUMizzou

12/3/12 7:03am

and here are the changes:

BYUMizzou

12/3/12 7:07am

thanks--I'll update the original post

inertiaman

12/3/12 7:07am

On the expense side, Dave Rose got an additional $900K to spend last year

BYUMizzou

12/3/12 7:10am

some of that $ may have gone into stadium/MC enhancements

inertiaman

12/3/12 7:11am

On second thought, those expenses weren't incurred until the summer of 2012

BYUMizzou

12/3/12 7:15am

They remodeled some besides the stadiums

Blue Oyster Cult

12/3/12 7:42am

For fun check out the UofU stats at that website

LaserCoug

12/3/12 7:07am

Yewts made 20.7M for FB in their first year in the PAC. $1.7M less than BYU did

BYUMizzou

12/3/12 7:14am

For comparision, last year Utah reported $14.6M in FB revenue

BYUMizzou

12/3/12 7:41am

It will be interesting to see what happens to ticket sales next year

SPgoofyft

12/3/12 7:43am

Last two games both sold out. The empty seats you saw were in the SS, because

NarfUte

12/3/12 8:19am

Hmm, that's not what I saw

SPgoofyft

12/3/12 6:23pm

Utah made 20.7MM with only CCG and bowl revenue

NarfUte

12/3/12 8:16am

Winning this battle, will lose the war.

Blue Oyster Cult

12/3/12 7:15am

yep - in 1 or 2 years they will make significantly more $ than BYU FB

inertiaman

12/3/12 7:16am

Not if BYU can join a big conference.

Blugar

12/3/12 7:22am

Utah received 50% share this year. Next year will

Regal Ute

12/3/12 7:49am

BYU had 1 more home game than the year before

Blue Oyster Cult

12/3/12 7:11am

That's why the game day expenses are significantly higher than the year before

BYUMizzou

12/3/12 7:12am

good point on the home game and TCU - added to original post

inertiaman

12/3/12 7:16am

Not included in the numbers being discussed...

BaYoU

12/3/12 7:17am

Good point.

BYUMizzou

12/3/12 7:20am

Any idea how the BYUtv #s are shaping up?

inertiaman

12/3/12 7:24am

I've heard that...

BaYoU

12/3/12 9:30am

RE: Not included in the numbers being discussed...

Blue Oyster Cult

12/3/12 7:24am

Like the update, one other note

Blue Oyster Cult

12/3/12 7:29am

You also have to subtract the $1M or so they were getting from the MWC contract

BYUMizzou

12/3/12 7:32am

So basically FB keeps all schools in the black

mellomike

12/3/12 7:45am

Unless you're Gonzaga, then Basketball carries the load

BYUMizzou

12/3/12 7:48am

Or Duke, where their BB program actually generates more revenue than FB

BYUMizzou

12/3/12 7:49am

Wow, that's insane for BB. Good for them.

mellomike

12/3/12 7:54am

With their tiny stadium?

Blue Oyster Cult

12/3/12 8:11am

Somewhat. Their ticket prices are off the charts--same with Gonzaga.

Gentleman Stan

12/4/12 1:25pm

I know that during the majority of my years at Utah

Solomon Levi

12/3/12 10:41am

how does the US department of education know about private school's finances?

cougarmanguy

12/3/12 10:36am

Typically required disclosures tied to

Solomon Levi

12/3/12 10:42am

I may be naive here, but I don't think

cougarmanguy

12/3/12 10:48am

This is basically to make sure they are complying with Title IX.

HammerBlue

12/3/12 10:55am

no doubt they do- no argument there. Still skeptical at these numbers though

cougarmanguy

12/3/12 11:01am

If BYU fudges the numbers, they would get in serious trouble.

HammerBlue

12/3/12 11:13am

? I never suggested BYU lied about their numbers

cougarmanguy

12/3/12 11:19am

Then what is there to be skeptical about? I guess I don't understand what you're

HammerBlue

12/3/12 11:34am

Thread is gone on awfully long for a comment made off hand. No worries.

cougarmanguy

12/3/12 11:51am

LOL, yeah I agree. I really wasn't trying to attack or be a pain ...

HammerBlue

12/4/12 9:51am

no misunderstandings here at all

cougarmanguy

12/4/12 1:13pm

Exactly right

Solomon Levi

12/3/12 11:48am

In 2010, prior to Jimmermania, the basketball team

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