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Oct 23, 2014
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mjohns8700
RE: Majerus ran the most boring offense ever designed
Yeah but he took his team the NCAA finals and several sweet 16's. BYU had to wait 30 years between Ainge and Jimmer to get that far.
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Dave Rose's "junior college" offensive system
byujay13
10/23/14 11:29am
Jazz are going to run a similar offense this year too.
lawboy
10/23/14 11:32am
Yes, but are they going to win?
runningfoo
10/23/14 1:29pm
I love Rose, but he's beyond bad at getting his teams to be successful running
RichieRich
10/23/14 11:33am
Rose's half court O is as ugly as his fast-break O is a work of art.
Bert609
10/23/14 11:37am
+1. His teams are bad at the half court because that's not their game.
Gentleman Stan
10/23/14 11:42am
"Junior college" offense? Duke runs something similar, so does UNC, so does UK,
Jhayes
10/23/14 11:36am
baloney! Run and gun is not the offense of these top programs. laughable
claw
10/23/14 11:44am
Pretty close, very few teams set up, pound it into the post, and run time off
Jhayes
10/23/14 11:46am
are you a proponent of the Reid/Majerus style?
BlueK
10/23/14 11:52am
That's why they were called the Runnin' Utes!!!!!!!!!!
Hinta
10/23/14 11:56am
Majerus ran the most boring offense ever designed
BlueK
10/23/14 11:58am
Which my HS coach mimicked which ruined my HS basketball life
Jhayes
10/23/14 11:58am
If coach had just decided to take a shot in the second half we'd have won state
BlueK
10/23/14 12:13pm
No joke, we held the ball for the final few minutes (don't remember the exact
Jhayes
10/23/14 12:15pm
RE: Majerus ran the most boring offense ever designed
mjohns8700
10/23/14 4:05pm
they received the nickname running utes long before Majerus arrived
Cougarpride
10/23/14 12:14pm
Yes, but that's when the nickname became truly ironic
Hinta
10/23/14 12:18pm
I would say under Archibald is when the name became ironic - IMO
Cougarpride
10/23/14 12:20pm
even before that under Jerry Pimm
BlueK
10/23/14 12:26pm
You are right, I forgot about Pimm - thanks
Cougarpride
10/23/14 12:44pm
Disagree on Duke but it totally is at UNC
concolor couguar
10/23/14 7:26pm
Well, UNC DID run something similar. They might not be running much for years.
ByuMba90
10/23/14 11:47am
part of it is personell.
thebruce
10/23/14 11:37am
part of it is coaching
2FarGone
10/23/14 1:11pm
for sure.
thebruce
10/23/14 1:21pm
defense was our real problem last year
BlueK
10/23/14 11:38am
You need a post player to be effective in the half court.
Blueto
10/23/14 11:40am
Not sure that's true.. Air Force used to run a pretty effective
byu bcs buster
10/23/14 2:38pm
And nobody wants to watch that offense
Jhayes
10/23/14 2:39pm
it's called the 7 second offense. we jack it 7 secs into possession
meetvirginia
10/23/14 11:41am
No, you are thinking of 1990 LMU. And it was 9 seconds, not 7.
Gentleman Stan
10/23/14 11:46am
For 1990 LMU, it was 7.
Blue Cat
10/23/14 11:51am
So fast...
Gentleman Stan
10/23/14 8:10pm
Which is fine, if you have rebounding potential and the shot is open
byu bcs buster
10/23/14 2:39pm
IIRC, they were 3rd in the country in scoring offense last year
StantonMac
10/23/14 11:53am
Is that a result of good shooting or just fast pace?
mudpupper
10/23/14 11:55am
in light of the fact that without exception the team with the most points
BlueK
10/23/14 11:57am
BYU has consistently been amongst the leaders in offensive efficiency
Indy Coug
10/23/14 11:58am
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boyblue
10/23/14 4:17pm
Shhhhhh....
PolarisPrime
10/23/14 4:13pm
I'm not going to disagree. Rose's offense is not --
lightmann
10/23/14 11:56am
his fast breaks most definitely are however
BlueK
10/23/14 11:58am
Teams that do not have speed and personnel to penetrate into the key usually
BYUheaven
10/23/14 11:58am
One other thing
BYUheaven
10/23/14 12:01pm
I used to defend Carlino, but as time went on I came to realize you guys
BlueK
10/23/14 12:03pm
Can't get into the paint and don't have a post player that can score with their
Jhayes
10/23/14 12:03pm
This is part of the reason I was thrilled to have
PolarisPrime
10/23/14 4:27pm
Dave Roses' national offensive rankings since he's been here:
nephicoug
10/23/14 11:58am
Why were his offenses so bad in 2012 and 2008?
nephicoug
10/23/14 12:02pm
while I agree....
thebruce
10/23/14 3:19pm
Those are efficiency rankings, not total points
nephicoug
10/23/14 5:38pm
Even more impressive when you consider that there are
PolarisPrime
10/23/14 4:31pm
BYU is extremely good at executing on in bounds plays
Indy Coug
10/23/14 11:59am
YES! Amazingly good. I'll bet they hit over 80% of their shots...
icecougar
10/23/14 3:06pm
coworker just said his 3rd grade team has same. he who has ball shoots it
meetvirginia
10/23/14 12:02pm
If anyone thinks that is Dave Rose's offense simply isn't watching
Indy Coug
10/23/14 12:04pm
I think some of these folks are just looking for a distraction now that football
BlueK
10/23/14 12:05pm
There is one thing that bothered me last year with Rose's offense
BYUheaven
10/23/14 12:13pm
You know - you would think that would work
byu bcs buster
10/23/14 2:44pm
Isaac Nielson looks like a big who would be good on the pick and roll
icecougar
10/23/14 3:15pm
Or picked up 3 or 4 charges a game ...
Jhayes
10/23/14 2:46pm
It would work better with a big like Noah Hartsock...
icecougar
10/23/14 3:11pm
I don't disagree with your point about the pick
PolarisPrime
10/23/14 4:33pm
If only he took some notes from Air Force and their half court offense,
Broda
10/23/14 12:24pm
Dave Rose's JC team at Dixie College was really fun to watch. 10-20 dunks/game.
JAGA97
10/23/14 12:35pm
church team "more sophisticated"
vabeachcoug
10/23/14 1:16pm
IMO: BYU has been without a true center to run the half court offense
Cougarpride
10/23/14 1:28pm
church team "more sophisticated"
vabeachcoug
10/23/14 1:29pm
Well wasn't the offense top 5 in the country last year in points? Big time
ocmyhome
10/23/14 1:33pm
I read an interview mentioning the possibility of BYU using the Pick and Roll...
icecougar
10/23/14 3:05pm
Well, our half court offense is usually not great.
Real Men Wear Blue
10/23/14 3:24pm
Main issue has been lack of 3 point shooting. Rose has had very good offenses
CougarBreath
10/23/14 3:51pm
BYU was 39th in offensive efficiency last year, you know that, right?
boyblue
10/23/14 4:17pm
I think with slow point guards we'd struggle more in half court sets
BYUfan92
10/23/14 8:35pm
I've noticed we struggle in half court sets
Harrison0Yfan
10/23/14 9:02pm
truly said...
icecougar
10/23/14 10:34pm
His teams have always lacked talent...getting better.
ag4cougs
10/23/14 9:42pm
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