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Oct 23, 2014
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thebruce
while I agree....
Its more about efficiency than it is points.
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Dave Rose's "junior college" offensive system
byujay13
10/23/14 11:29am
Jazz are going to run a similar offense this year too.
lawboy
10/23/14 11:32am
Yes, but are they going to win?
runningfoo
10/23/14 1:29pm
I love Rose, but he's beyond bad at getting his teams to be successful running
RichieRich
10/23/14 11:33am
Rose's half court O is as ugly as his fast-break O is a work of art.
Bert609
10/23/14 11:37am
+1. His teams are bad at the half court because that's not their game.
Gentleman Stan
10/23/14 11:42am
"Junior college" offense? Duke runs something similar, so does UNC, so does UK,
Jhayes
10/23/14 11:36am
baloney! Run and gun is not the offense of these top programs. laughable
claw
10/23/14 11:44am
Pretty close, very few teams set up, pound it into the post, and run time off
Jhayes
10/23/14 11:46am
are you a proponent of the Reid/Majerus style?
BlueK
10/23/14 11:52am
That's why they were called the Runnin' Utes!!!!!!!!!!
Hinta
10/23/14 11:56am
Majerus ran the most boring offense ever designed
BlueK
10/23/14 11:58am
Which my HS coach mimicked which ruined my HS basketball life
Jhayes
10/23/14 11:58am
If coach had just decided to take a shot in the second half we'd have won state
BlueK
10/23/14 12:13pm
No joke, we held the ball for the final few minutes (don't remember the exact
Jhayes
10/23/14 12:15pm
RE: Majerus ran the most boring offense ever designed
mjohns8700
10/23/14 4:05pm
they received the nickname running utes long before Majerus arrived
Cougarpride
10/23/14 12:14pm
Yes, but that's when the nickname became truly ironic
Hinta
10/23/14 12:18pm
I would say under Archibald is when the name became ironic - IMO
Cougarpride
10/23/14 12:20pm
even before that under Jerry Pimm
BlueK
10/23/14 12:26pm
You are right, I forgot about Pimm - thanks
Cougarpride
10/23/14 12:44pm
Disagree on Duke but it totally is at UNC
concolor couguar
10/23/14 7:26pm
Well, UNC DID run something similar. They might not be running much for years.
ByuMba90
10/23/14 11:47am
part of it is personell.
thebruce
10/23/14 11:37am
part of it is coaching
2FarGone
10/23/14 1:11pm
for sure.
thebruce
10/23/14 1:21pm
defense was our real problem last year
BlueK
10/23/14 11:38am
You need a post player to be effective in the half court.
Blueto
10/23/14 11:40am
Not sure that's true.. Air Force used to run a pretty effective
byu bcs buster
10/23/14 2:38pm
And nobody wants to watch that offense
Jhayes
10/23/14 2:39pm
it's called the 7 second offense. we jack it 7 secs into possession
meetvirginia
10/23/14 11:41am
No, you are thinking of 1990 LMU. And it was 9 seconds, not 7.
Gentleman Stan
10/23/14 11:46am
For 1990 LMU, it was 7.
Blue Cat
10/23/14 11:51am
So fast...
Gentleman Stan
10/23/14 8:10pm
Which is fine, if you have rebounding potential and the shot is open
byu bcs buster
10/23/14 2:39pm
IIRC, they were 3rd in the country in scoring offense last year
StantonMac
10/23/14 11:53am
Is that a result of good shooting or just fast pace?
mudpupper
10/23/14 11:55am
in light of the fact that without exception the team with the most points
BlueK
10/23/14 11:57am
BYU has consistently been amongst the leaders in offensive efficiency
Indy Coug
10/23/14 11:58am
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boyblue
10/23/14 4:17pm
Shhhhhh....
PolarisPrime
10/23/14 4:13pm
I'm not going to disagree. Rose's offense is not --
lightmann
10/23/14 11:56am
his fast breaks most definitely are however
BlueK
10/23/14 11:58am
Teams that do not have speed and personnel to penetrate into the key usually
BYUheaven
10/23/14 11:58am
One other thing
BYUheaven
10/23/14 12:01pm
I used to defend Carlino, but as time went on I came to realize you guys
BlueK
10/23/14 12:03pm
Can't get into the paint and don't have a post player that can score with their
Jhayes
10/23/14 12:03pm
This is part of the reason I was thrilled to have
PolarisPrime
10/23/14 4:27pm
Dave Roses' national offensive rankings since he's been here:
nephicoug
10/23/14 11:58am
Why were his offenses so bad in 2012 and 2008?
nephicoug
10/23/14 12:02pm
while I agree....
thebruce
10/23/14 3:19pm
Those are efficiency rankings, not total points
nephicoug
10/23/14 5:38pm
Even more impressive when you consider that there are
PolarisPrime
10/23/14 4:31pm
BYU is extremely good at executing on in bounds plays
Indy Coug
10/23/14 11:59am
YES! Amazingly good. I'll bet they hit over 80% of their shots...
icecougar
10/23/14 3:06pm
coworker just said his 3rd grade team has same. he who has ball shoots it
meetvirginia
10/23/14 12:02pm
If anyone thinks that is Dave Rose's offense simply isn't watching
Indy Coug
10/23/14 12:04pm
I think some of these folks are just looking for a distraction now that football
BlueK
10/23/14 12:05pm
There is one thing that bothered me last year with Rose's offense
BYUheaven
10/23/14 12:13pm
You know - you would think that would work
byu bcs buster
10/23/14 2:44pm
Isaac Nielson looks like a big who would be good on the pick and roll
icecougar
10/23/14 3:15pm
Or picked up 3 or 4 charges a game ...
Jhayes
10/23/14 2:46pm
It would work better with a big like Noah Hartsock...
icecougar
10/23/14 3:11pm
I don't disagree with your point about the pick
PolarisPrime
10/23/14 4:33pm
If only he took some notes from Air Force and their half court offense,
Broda
10/23/14 12:24pm
Dave Rose's JC team at Dixie College was really fun to watch. 10-20 dunks/game.
JAGA97
10/23/14 12:35pm
church team "more sophisticated"
vabeachcoug
10/23/14 1:16pm
IMO: BYU has been without a true center to run the half court offense
Cougarpride
10/23/14 1:28pm
church team "more sophisticated"
vabeachcoug
10/23/14 1:29pm
Well wasn't the offense top 5 in the country last year in points? Big time
ocmyhome
10/23/14 1:33pm
I read an interview mentioning the possibility of BYU using the Pick and Roll...
icecougar
10/23/14 3:05pm
Well, our half court offense is usually not great.
Real Men Wear Blue
10/23/14 3:24pm
Main issue has been lack of 3 point shooting. Rose has had very good offenses
CougarBreath
10/23/14 3:51pm
BYU was 39th in offensive efficiency last year, you know that, right?
boyblue
10/23/14 4:17pm
I think with slow point guards we'd struggle more in half court sets
BYUfan92
10/23/14 8:35pm
I've noticed we struggle in half court sets
Harrison0Yfan
10/23/14 9:02pm
truly said...
icecougar
10/23/14 10:34pm
His teams have always lacked talent...getting better.
ag4cougs
10/23/14 9:42pm
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