The coach you are denigrating has the stadium named after him.

Aug 28, 2015
3:24:34pm

Bostonblue

He is a legend by any account. You aren't going to find many supporters for your notion that Crowton's failures were caused by Lavell. Lavell obviously left the cupboard full enough for Crowton to go 12-0 in his first 12 games as head coach.

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Interesting side note to Payne's FG choke vs Boise St in 2004...

icecougar

8/28/15 2:34pm

True but....

scottm

8/28/15 2:39pm

bottom line was to win 6 games and a win over Boise St gives him 6...

icecougar

8/28/15 2:44pm

OTOH, a win over Boise may have changed the attitude on the team

mogelijk

8/28/15 3:46pm

momentum builds culture for sure....

icecougar

8/28/15 4:40pm

That was Stanford.

TeeKaa

8/28/15 3:10pm

What happened in the last week that has generated all these pro-Crowton

Bostonblue

8/28/15 2:39pm

not to mention the constant haranguing of Payne

blucoug18

8/28/15 2:45pm

I think that miss shook his confidence

donnerstag

8/28/15 3:10pm

it shook a lot of us. I was stunned...

icecougar

8/28/15 3:42pm

Payne was an awesome player...an even better person.

BYUHgrad

8/28/15 7:52pm

The players I;ve spoken to loved crowton as a person

scottm

8/28/15 2:45pm

Crowton did the right thing after the 2001 team's core players graduated

donnerstag

8/28/15 2:57pm

It's absolutely the case. Three straight losing seasons for the

Bostonblue

8/28/15 3:22pm

Crowt on was building for the future

donnerstag

8/28/15 8:42pm

I got to hand it to you. You have no fear standing alone in your thoughts.

Bostonblue

8/28/15 9:15pm

There are multiple posters that agree with me

donnerstag

8/28/15 9:32pm

Good to know that you got a couple of comrades who got your back.

Bostonblue

8/28/15 9:36pm

The proof is how many NFL players and college stars

donnerstag

8/29/15 6:43am

The measure of success is certainly not NFL players (although yewts would hope

Bostonblue

8/29/15 8:59am

Coaches can't be judged by wins and losses alone

donnerstag

8/29/15 9:24am

No coach can survive three straight losing seasons at a program with the history

Bostonblue

8/29/15 9:31am

Crowton won a National Championship at LSU

donnerstag

8/29/15 6:54am

It's the Jimmy Carter effect.

QuickCoug

8/28/15 3:07pm

There was going to be a recession in BYU football with or without Crowton

donnerstag

8/28/15 3:20pm

The coach you are denigrating has the stadium named after him.

Bostonblue

8/28/15 3:24pm

Lavell was the man!

donnerstag

8/28/15 3:29pm

Crowton had 4 years to create a winner and failed.

Bostonblue

8/28/15 3:37pm

Why does everyone forget that it was Mike Borich that was the man. He was why

indocoug

8/28/15 4:23pm

or the Obama effect. Hey, that last guy actually wasn't so bad...

doubleduce

8/28/15 5:22pm

winning solves a lot of problems...

icecougar

8/28/15 3:35pm

With all this NFL talent you speak of, how come Crowton only won 5 games.

coolblue

8/28/15 2:43pm

The NFL talent was very young in 2004

donnerstag

8/28/15 2:55pm

Did you not see the SOS for that season?

Kerbouchard

8/28/15 2:59pm

Because he wasn't a good coach.

Walter Bellhaven

8/28/15 3:14pm

many were still young and inexperienced in '04 they also played #11 toughest SoS

icecougar

8/28/15 3:19pm

He still would have been fired. Losing games was just a small part

byubyu

8/28/15 2:45pm

Beck was hardly a guy that looked like NFL talent that year.

RaggaeCoug

8/28/15 2:54pm

Beck was already good with an upward trajectory

donnerstag

8/28/15 2:59pm

That wasn't Payne's choke, it was Crowton's

Walter Bellhaven

8/28/15 3:13pm

IIRC in that game, we tried to center the ball on 1st down.

SpiffCoug

8/28/15 4:12pm

This doesn't explain 2002 or 2003...

WhiteKnight

8/28/15 9:29pm

Glad one point was brought up

ajweston

8/28/15 11:57pm

Bronco inherited a talented and experienced team

donnerstag

8/29/15 6:32am

inaccurate portrayal

icecougar

8/29/15 4:14pm

Ohhhh, now we're blaming all of BYU's ills on Mitch Payne...

Jomo

8/29/15 12:15am

who is saying it's an ill?

icecougar

9/2/15 11:09pm

I guess you can't type out saracasm.... sigh

Jomo

9/3/15 12:19am

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