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Nov 22, 2017
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CarolinaCoug
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This post needs more attention!!!! Awesome analysis sir.
You have a strong grasp on his the football world works.
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We need a coach that can establish and define a culture. Bronco’s stern affect
Run-DMT
11/21/17 1:07am
Everything Bronco was mocked for is everything we are missing. Most of us have
Cougarfan777
11/21/17 1:20am
I was told Sitake’s “culture” was what we were missing before. Which was
DirtyWater
11/21/17 7:37am
Those weren’t the things that irritated fans
antiyewt
11/21/17 9:06am
Yep. Also recruiting blunders and we plateaued at 8 wins per season for 4 yrs
D.T. Survivor
11/21/17 9:13am
I would die for 8 wins this year. Or 7 or even 6.
OmahaThunderCoug
11/21/17 9:28am
I would love that too. Some of us (me for sure) took 8 wins for granted.
D.T. Survivor
11/21/17 9:33am
You would? Really? If it was the 7th season in a row of 8 wins you'd
SandYFan
11/21/17 9:41am
Forgot to mention recruiting
antiyewt
11/21/17 9:38am
Would love to see evidence that Kalani
kooogar
11/21/17 10:03am
Come on, there were a bunch of high profile transfers
antiyewt
11/21/17 10:10am
Between dads being hired as coaches and Kalani's initial popularity,
kooogar
11/21/17 1:51pm
Okay, let's look at those complaints and I'll point out where Bronco used
Cougarfan777
11/21/17 11:18am
Hurray for Bronco! He’s just so dreamy!
Paul Hewson
11/21/17 7:47pm
8-5 8-5 8-5 losses to Utah, Moo U, bsu
Paul Hewson
11/21/17 7:45pm
Great post. And i agree.....every b should see this now. It’s been obvious for
OmahaThunderCoug
11/21/17 9:26am
WRONG, 100% WRONG. Runs up to the Y and those other things are NOT
Kerbouchard
11/21/17 11:49am
slogans, firesides . . . don't lie to yourself.
VenetianCougar
11/21/17 2:13pm
Bronco was a negative Nancy and hated fans. That never changed. He resented
LV Mike
11/21/17 9:43pm
As long as you don't include recruiting and a few other things
youngbuck
11/22/17 4:59pm
Agree that this is the foundation that's missing. Can Kalani change his ways to
ManinChina
11/21/17 1:38am
That’s a great question. Sometimes it’s hard to predict who can set culture
Run-DMT
11/21/17 1:44am
Some may not like it but Dr. ANAE
kahuna
11/21/17 2:13am
Yes, and he’d be more qualified than at least 90%
Run-DMT
11/21/17 2:31am
Similar reasons to why Chow should have got the job after LaVell, but some
Polecat
11/21/17 8:38am
Chow?! Yeah, he did such a great job at Hawaii as HC, right?
Kerbouchard
11/21/17 11:52am
Give me a break. BYU in 2001 is not similar at all to Hawaii a few years ago
Polecat
11/21/17 11:58am
Kalani doesn’t have the organizational skills to do it...unless he learns from Bronco’s reading list
Bonoman
11/21/17 7:25am
It takes more than books you either have it or you Don't for the most part could
kahuna
11/21/17 9:59am
If you were to pin me down...I would say Kalani doesn't have it...
Bonoman
11/21/17 10:42am
Corporate cliches and buzz words are what clueless people use because they think
Paul Hewson
11/21/17 7:49pm
You seem to have a good read on reality, love your 6 thumbs down to 1 up!
kooogar
11/21/17 11:03pm
The more thumbs down the better on CB. You people are freaks.
Paul Hewson
11/21/17 11:25pm
Bronco’s “outstanding seasons” all happened in the MWC.
mm73
11/21/17 4:54am
Right but he never even came close to 3 and 10
Soy Celeste
11/21/17 5:02am
many of our losses were to non P5 schools we should beat.
GA_Coug
11/21/17 6:07am
define many
MormonThug
11/21/17 11:16am
Even his bad seasons were a trillion times more enjoyable than this one.
ballen
11/21/17 6:15am
I vehemently diaagree..maybe a billion,million,actually maybe onklly 2×
CarolinaCoug
11/22/17 11:29am
They also happened to be the years when he had healthy QBs.
BerkeleyCoug
11/21/17 7:05am
Its funny how all of those healthy QBs played in the same offense
CaliWG
11/21/17 8:52am
And before he ditched Anae the first time
CaliWG
11/21/17 8:51am
Bronco was mocked for running it like a business. I never understood why.
SlantRoute
11/21/17 7:01am
He got mocked because that always gave the impression he was running a business,
Polecat
11/21/17 8:14am
Still, Bronco’s approach would’ve yielded 6-7 wins at least this season.
SlantRoute
11/21/17 10:45am
Definitely. I was just stating why it bothered people, myself included.
Polecat
11/21/17 2:29pm
Defintely? Maybe sure sefinitelt iseasy to debate.
CarolinaCoug
11/23/17 3:36pm
That's what Bronco did, and Sitake seemed to miss on.
Eddie
11/21/17 9:18am
Agreed. Even though I can’t stand you. May see you at Christmas. Not sure yet
OmahaThunderCoug
11/21/17 9:30am
Completely agree. However, I will say it was time for a change—for both
BYUHgrad
11/21/17 7:04am
I think that’s fair Change was needed, and we made the wrong change.
SlantRoute
11/21/17 7:08am
It might not even be the budget as much as it's the restrictions that
kotacoug
11/21/17 7:11am
It sure seems like Holliday really wanted to be here, but either the money
BerkeleyCoug
11/21/17 7:19am
I would say the resources are more of the problem than what you are describing.
BYUHgrad
11/21/17 7:20am
Btw, has Steve Young weighed in on the issues lately? He’s a guru of team
Run-DMT
11/21/17 7:45am
Here's what he said in September after our 27-0 loss to LSU, and it wasn't good:
Brisco
11/21/17 8:12am
A Guru?
SlantRoute
11/21/17 8:47am
He would make a very good consultant to the AD and HC sharing some...
icecougar
11/21/17 10:38am
Would make a very good AD
Big Daddy D
11/21/17 2:54pm
That was my first thought but I could never see him wanting to be tied down...
icecougar
11/21/17 8:01pm
Totally agree that we need a cultural identity, but ...
blue13
11/21/17 9:16am
Clearly a lack of leadership.
Soy Celeste
11/21/17 9:29am
This is right in line with Sun Tzu's "The Art of War"
ChurroNieves
11/21/17 9:36am
Are you suggesting the team “needs a little motivation”?
BYUHgrad
11/21/17 10:26am
the latter half of Bronco's tenure BYU became a very undisciplined...
icecougar
11/21/17 10:34am
Bronco didn’t care about penalties
antiyewt
11/21/17 10:52am
or nut punches, late hits, brawls, etc
icecougar
11/21/17 8:05pm
This board is mostly about opinions, and I disagree with every single one of
kooogar
11/21/17 2:34pm
yes, it's about opinions and you put forth a lot of them...
icecougar
11/21/17 9:25pm
I appreciate the response, I was disappointed with the brawl and several
kooogar
11/21/17 10:47pm
There's no myth about Crowton's recruiting...
icecougar
11/22/17 3:51pm
This post needs more attention!!!! Awesome analysis sir.
CarolinaCoug
11/22/17 6:25pm
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kooogar
11/22/17 11:19pm
Yes, Bronco won with Crowton's players, the point being discussed was the myth
kooogar
11/22/17 11:10pm
Forget the star rankings and look at what the players did over their careers...
icecougar
11/23/17 4:58am
OK, Bronco took Crowton's 60th rated classes and averaged 26th ranked finishes
kooogar
11/23/17 8:31am
RE: Yes, Bronco won with Crowton's players, the point being discussed was the
icecougar
11/23/17 5:48am
What do you think BYU's record would be if Bronco hadn't left? Assume
Soy Celeste
11/23/17 6:43am
Last year's success (also 4 games where they won in OT or on a last second
kooogar
11/23/17 8:38am
I agree with cultural carryover. It's now been replaced with hakuna matata.
Soy Celeste
11/23/17 9:43am
We need a coach that can establish and define a culture. Really?
socorny
11/21/17 10:51am
How many years did it take for Bronco to field a decent team after the Crowton debacle?
Brisco
11/21/17 10:56am
Um, the W-L record is a really good indicator
antiyewt
11/21/17 10:56am
There are plenty of other factors affecting the W-L record.
socorny
11/21/17 11:10am
The first red flag came for me during fall camp. I remember hearing players talk
Soy Celeste
11/21/17 2:32pm
That was worrisome for me too
antiyewt
11/21/17 2:44pm
Have you ever had responsibility for a large organization? Certainly
Soy Celeste
11/21/17 11:00am
We must not be listening to the same media outlets.
canofpicante
11/21/17 12:09pm
We need Captain Moroni more than ever!
Paul Hewson
11/21/17 7:43pm
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