I think the cyclical realities of football programs are just too much for people to accept and so they

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Nov 13, 2018
10:20:42am

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

basically make it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Can anyone think of examples in college football coaching where the

Sandstone Cougar

11/13/18 10:15am

Mike Leach at Washington State

Littlerich

11/13/18 10:16am

RE: Mike Leach at Washington State

Thrill

11/13/18 10:17am

The problem w/ that example is he took over a horrible program. I'd like to

Odysseus

11/13/18 10:18am

and we knew leach was good already.

Deleted

11/13/18 10:22am

Dabo sweeney

CarolinaCoug

11/13/18 2:28pm

Not a great example. Leach had already proven he could be successful as HC.

Gerald-DeGroot

11/13/18 1:37pm

And he took over a horrible program.

(Private)

11/13/18 3:07pm

Leach already established himself at TT

reddead

11/13/18 6:13pm

So silly it is not worth a response.

Cougstreak

11/13/18 10:32pm

Mike Leach at WSU

Thrill

11/13/18 10:16am

Dabo Swinney 6-7 in his 3rd season at Clemson

Thrill

11/13/18 10:19am

The heat was on. Coaching seats don't get much hotter than his was that year.

Left Shark Coug

11/13/18 10:24am

Mike Leach was a proven coach who took over a program in shambles

kimdaddy35

11/13/18 10:47am

Lou Holtz started 13-20 in his first 3 years

Indy Coug

11/13/18 10:19am

At William and Mary

kimdaddy35

11/13/18 10:45am

Yep, he got a promotion for doing it

Indy Coug

11/13/18 10:52am

Yes which is why he doesn't fit the narrative of what the original poster

kimdaddy35

11/13/18 10:55am

I saw him coach at William & Mary as a 9/10 year old I'm 1970/71.

JmThms

11/13/18 10:55am

RE: I saw him coach at William & Mary as a 9/10 year old I'm 1970/71.

Costanza

11/13/18 11:02am

The WSU coach, Mike Leach

OG Coug

11/13/18 10:19am

Frank Beamer at Virginia Tech

Team Cheese

11/13/18 10:19am

That's a really good example. They were 9-2 the year before he took over and

Odysseus

11/13/18 10:24am

he did have to deal with some scholarship restrictions due to something that

Team Cheese

11/13/18 10:29am

Looks like Beamer took over after the NCAA hit them w/ sanctions though

Odysseus

11/13/18 10:30am

Don't forget sockgate!

(Private)

11/13/18 3:08pm

Not a great example. Beamer had already proven he could be successful as HC.

Gerald-DeGroot

11/13/18 2:21pm

Seems like today college coaches

Heinz57

11/13/18 10:19am

I think the cyclical realities of football programs are just too much for people to accept and so they

Indy Coug

11/13/18 10:20am

Your theory does not work at BYU

kimdaddy35

11/13/18 10:49am

Mike MacIntyre won 10 games his first 3 years at Colorado.

Blue Cat

11/13/18 10:27am

And now he's been fired.

Costanza

11/13/18 10:30am

Maybe there's more going on than just losing 5 games in a row at CU, but I think there is way too much

Indy Coug

11/13/18 10:33am

Mike has been there 5 years and has one season with a winning record

kimdaddy35

11/13/18 10:51am

Gary Pinkel at Toledo and Mizzou, Stoops at Kentucky

Gustav

11/13/18 10:33am

You stole my Gary Pinkel thunder.

Blue Cat

11/13/18 10:35am

Gary Pinkel is an interesting case.

Blue Cat

11/13/18 10:34am

Similar to what he did at Toledo

Gustav

11/13/18 10:39am

Leach inherited a dumpster fire, Kalani created a dumpster fire. Can't compare

Mr. Scoobs

11/13/18 10:35am

LaVell.

andrewg3

11/13/18 10:41am

^^^

TailgateU

11/13/18 11:47am

Lavell's first 4 yrs average or below par. then noticeable rise

tknight

11/13/18 4:07pm

BYU's record the 4 years before LaVell was 16-26. LaVell's first 4 years 25-19-1

KingDave

11/13/18 6:33pm

Yawn. BYU had a very bad 2017. 2018 hasn't been bad. Could be better. Examples:

Benfica1

11/13/18 11:13am

RE: Yawn. BYU had a very bad 2017. 2018 hasn't been bad. Could be better.

Gerald-DeGroot

11/13/18 1:38pm

So bad NO one has shown one example on the last 20 years of any oc who did well

CarolinaCoug

11/13/18 2:31pm

Jim Harbaugh's first 3 seasons at Michigan were pretty mediocre in aggregate,

chilango

11/13/18 11:17am

Wrong. Michigan was 11-2 his second season and one flukey call from the playoff

puntersarepeople

11/13/18 6:35pm

No, they finished 10-3 that year, winnng a bunch of easy home games but losing

chilango

11/13/18 7:15pm

They beat Colorado, Penn State, and Wisconsin who all won their divisions

puntersarepeople

11/13/18 9:00pm

Yes, but the wins over Colorado and PSU were very early in the season, before

chilango

11/14/18 5:17am

Matt Wells at USU had a couple of great years carried over from Gary Anderson and then tanked the next 2. Gary Anderson

Rhino84

11/13/18 11:27am

The question then is whether they can sustain success. I'll be surprised if USU

TailgateU

11/13/18 1:33pm

The biggest problem they have is the much greener pastures on the other side of the fence that pulls successful coaches

Rhino84

11/13/18 2:48pm

Perfect example, I thought he was a terrible HC and would not last past

Bluedarts

11/13/18 9:31pm

KS... (I can see the future) 😁🤙🏼

ZooBlue

11/13/18 12:14pm

Nick Saban's first 4 years at Mich State:

cougsoncougs

11/13/18 1:41pm

Dabo sweeney?

CarolinaCoug

11/13/18 2:27pm

How about Mark Dantonio.

ImuaKahuku

11/13/18 2:46pm

Kalani Freaking Sitake...

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