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This has always been my issue with Tuiaki's defense:
nephicoug
All-American
9/21/21 8:00am
Here's a visualization of BYU's trend in Total Havoc over the years:
nephicoug
9/21/21 8:02am
In fairness, FBS independents historically are bad at creating havoc. It’s just
DieHarder
9/21/21 8:04am
What is Havoc?
violetjazz
9/21/21 8:02am
Read this article:
nephicoug
9/21/21 8:03am
So…a big component is stealing offensive playcalling? That’s unfortunate.
maizecoug
9/21/21 8:11am
Lesser known X-man. Bother of Cyclops. Power to absorb ambient cosmic energy
Sir_Ten
9/21/21 8:06am
RE: What is Havoc?
mm73
9/21/21 12:42pm
A new mutant superhero?
scott715
9/21/21 1:45pm
A new strain of COVID?
ArcticKat
9/21/21 1:54pm
2018? This defense is not the D from 2018. I would wager that we aren't in that corner this year.
RoaroftheCougartails
9/21/21 8:03am
We aren't. We are much improved this year. Like I said, Kalani has said in interviews that they are focused on producing
nephicoug
9/21/21 8:04am
6 forced turnovers this year through 3 games… although one goes to the offense;)
Powerbait DPM
9/21/21 8:08am
The current strategy gives away yards, field position, and momentum. Importantly
Bluedomination
9/21/21 8:05am
Remember Bronco's "total disruption" mantra when he first came here as DC?
shoganai
9/21/21 8:06am
Ziggy only started like 4 games, right?
4thand19
9/21/21 9:27am
You're half right.
CougarThug
9/21/21 11:33am
A lot of that is not having the horses in the secondary to be able to create
SUAVO
9/21/21 8:07am
He had to have more horses at BYU than he did and NM?
Blue for Life
9/21/21 10:37am
NM?
SUAVO
9/21/21 10:45am
New Mexico, guess it is UNM? Sorry
Blue for Life
9/21/21 11:55am
He coached at New Mexico?
SUAVO
9/21/21 2:34pm
Yea Bronco did, he was the DC there. They brought him up and I was replying to
Blue for Life
9/21/21 3:11pm
Lol. You use a chart but not from this year, last year, or the year before that
Blueto
9/21/21 8:09am
The last one that was available. I wouldn't count last year considering who we played.
nephicoug
9/21/21 8:17am
Last year when we played 12 D1 teams? I bet you would have counted it if we
Blueto
9/21/21 8:24am
Most of those teams are teams we'll probably never play again - that we only played because it's all we could get
nephicoug
9/21/21 8:26am
Ok, here you go. BYU had 117 havoc plays out of 793 total defensive plays, or 14.8% - below the national average
nephicoug
9/21/21 8:29am
Um, Houston and UCF are literally joining the B12 with us. BSU and SDSU are
Blueto
9/21/21 9:35am
My issue with Yners that fail to see that Tuiaki has defenses ranked higher than
Cougarbib
9/21/21 10:29am
Nephicoug isn't wrong though.
dwhitebud
9/21/21 10:35am
He finds a way to get it done every year and nearly every game. It depends on
Cougarbib
9/21/21 10:38am
He has done a great job the last 3 years.
dwhitebud
9/21/21 10:40am
Last year was a Top 10 defense.
Cougarbib
9/21/21 12:58pm
Seriously?
DocIzzy
9/21/21 10:34am
Did somebody say Karl Havoc?!
HotspurCoug
9/21/21 11:05am
He drops 8 and lets the offense make its own mistakes
GeraldGarner
9/21/21 11:19am
LoL. 6 or 7 yards every carry. Our defense has worked well against almost every
Cougarbib
9/21/21 1:06pm
Happy to revisit this after we play a good team
GeraldGarner
9/21/21 1:28pm
Our offense sputters away entire quarters. You might notice that the more
Cougarbib
9/26/21 2:12am
Shocker. We might not go undefeated. Fire everyone. BTW. USC was struggling vs
Cougarbib
9/26/21 2:13am
You’re looking silly right now, my guy
GeraldGarner
9/25/21 11:15pm
Silly about which part? Our defense has a job. Allow 24 points or less. They
Cougarbib
9/26/21 2:07am
PS. BYU got much higher yards per play than USF. Wrubel indicated USF back
Cougarbib
9/26/21 2:09am
Yikes 😳
GeraldGarner
10/16/21 7:38pm
Utah game is evidence of deeper talent and evolution of our DC
BYUgoslav
9/21/21 11:24am
Seems like a strange time air a beef about Tuiaki’s defense.
WaybackCougar
9/21/21 11:46am
It's not a beef. It WAS a beef. If you look at my other posts on havoc today, we've actually IMPROVED quite a bit in
nephicoug
9/21/21 1:11pm
We were Top 10 defense in 2020. Not a uite top 30 right now. I know. SOS. But,
Cougarbib
9/21/21 1:30pm
Who even cares if they keep points off the board. No one!
byucougs9
9/21/21 12:41pm
Good argument to make, right after a game where we got 4 turnovers... ...
here's to hoping
9/21/21 1:32pm
Special teams got 1 of those turnovers. Our offense got another of those, but
Cougarbib
9/21/21 1:37pm
Those TOs prove my argument. My argument is that BYU is getting much better at creating Havoc
nephicoug
9/21/21 2:12pm
Maybe something about getting better should be included in your OP, instead of
here's to hoping
9/21/21 3:04pm
There had been some other threads about it previously and I followed up on this thread with other posts about our
nephicoug
9/21/21 3:24pm
Yes. Allgeier and Hall created Havoc and after Hall turned it over they got
Cougarbib
9/21/21 4:23pm
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