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May 9, 2024
10:42:08am

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I wasn’t comparing. Just commenting on an experience I had with pay up front

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VACougMD

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This article is infuriating. Healthcare system is so bad in this country. It’s

Iman23

May 9, 9:22am

There are dozens of better systems out there. Why don't we try one of them?

DubuMfalme

May 9, 9:27am

What is the better system that could work in the US? I think it’s broken but

SouthernBlueBlood

May 9, 9:34am

Two tier. Public VA type system. True private system

cougfanz

May 9, 9:42am

VA is HORRIBLEx100- seriously. You don’t want that.

SouthernBlueBlood

May 9, 9:53am

It’s not for me. I’ll be doing the private option

cougfanz

May 9, 9:54am

I think most everyone would agree there.

SouthernBlueBlood

May 9, 9:57am

well no one wants it...

May 9, 9:57am

There are countries with 50M+ pop where it works.

DubuMfalme

May 9, 9:56am

Canada- the favorite pretend bastion of healthcare. Telling a Mexican that we

SouthernBlueBlood

May 9, 9:59am

Yeah, let's keep clinging to our failed system as it gets worse and worse.

DubuMfalme

May 9, 10:07am

I don’t think our system is good- but your examples arent really better

SouthernBlueBlood

May 9, 10:08am

They're far cheaper, and their citizens live longer.

DubuMfalme

May 9, 10:11am

Not true- if you compare logically- but if you cherry pick like Roger you’re rig

SouthernBlueBlood

May 9, 10:12am

99% of the ambulances I saw in Brazil were basically Ubers. They weren't staffed

scottfunkel

May 9, 10:02am

After living in Australia for 4 years, I would pass on their system.

Longseason

May 9, 10:10am

Don’t get me started on how crappy canadas healthcare is. For basic care it’s ok

Adwight

May 9, 10:17am

I grew up in Canada. Their system is no bueno. My mom was told last year that

ShinobiCoug

May 9, 10:29am

I hope you aren’t speaking of Japan healthcare from personal observation

NYC and Japan

May 9, 11:56pm

I hear good things about germanys

boctabulous

May 9, 10:40am

US is too big for a one-size fits all solution. Should be state specific.

Doogal McCougar

May 9, 10:49am

How can they possibly know what the cost will be in advance?

RobAdams

May 9, 9:27am

Dont worry, they will send a revised bill 6 months later 😉

Longseason

May 9, 9:35am

This sounds more like a surgical center. They know they’re not chasing insurance

cougfanz

May 9, 9:52am

Lot of new people that need healthcare, someone has to pay for it.

Longseason

May 9, 9:29am

what do you mean by new people that need healthcare?

May 9, 10:02am

What is the infuriating part? That hospitals are requiring to be paid?

Chester Copperpot

May 9, 9:29am

1) The price is a moving target. 2) Patients have to fight the hospital for months to get owed refunds. 3) Patients who

Smack'sWife

May 9, 9:35am

It really can be crazy. Complicated surgeries though can’t be planned

SouthernBlueBlood

May 9, 9:36am

Just because you have insurance doesn't mean you automatically earn the right to

Chester Copperpot

May 9, 10:10am

What’s wrong about that is the cost should be very inexpensive at this point.

SouthernBlueBlood

May 9, 10:14am

Actually it is a supply and demand issue. There are too many fat people in the

Chester Copperpot

May 9, 10:21am

I thought it was tied to supplier tying up the resources and production. I’d

SouthernBlueBlood

May 9, 10:36am

Free markets require clear pricing, unfettered consumer choice, no monopolies/price fixing. We have the opposite of that

Smack'sWife

May 9, 10:38am

First, do no harm. No...wait, first, get paid up front.

Blueto

May 9, 9:30am

These are elective surgeries.

cougfanz

May 9, 9:51am

The surgery in question is medically necessary so the child can breathe, not "elective" like, say, cosmetic surgery.

Smack'sWife

May 9, 10:03am

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May 9, 10:09am

“Medically necessary” is a pretty loose term. They have plenty of time to look

cougfanz

May 9, 10:20am

Is it? When I had a surgery where I knew my deductible would be met, I paid some

May 9, 9:30am

I agree it's bad but not really for this reason.

NumbersGuy

May 9, 9:38am

When I was in Nepal, I worked in an ER in Kathmandu and if someone needed an

VACougMD

May 9, 9:39am

It's not the reality in other advanced countries, though.

DubuMfalme

May 9, 9:57am

meh, I had to pay upfront in Australia and sat in the ER for 8 hours

Longseason

May 9, 10:13am

Have you actually experienced healthcare in these other advanced countries?

ShinobiCoug

May 9, 10:30am

I wasn’t comparing. Just commenting on an experience I had with pay up front

VACougMD

May 9, 10:42am

Healthcare system is way down on the list of things correlated to length of life

NYC and Japan

May 9, 12:20pm

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