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seryran
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Social Media tends to make the minor seem like the majority sometimes.
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Request to Byu fans from the WCC fans
seryran
10/23/16 2:26pm
I hear just as much about it from Utes and other BYU haters as I do
Jericho
10/23/16 2:28pm
It's not the small gyms...It's the "empty" small gyms.
WJCougar
10/23/16 2:39pm
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cvd6262
10/23/16 3:58pm
Sorry...meant for original post
WJCougar
10/23/16 2:40pm
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jaba166
10/23/16 10:39pm
Fair points but we're not the only ones that say it and not all say it at that
Countcougula
10/23/16 2:36pm
I like the WCC and appreciate that someone wants us....hate the refs
84 Grad
10/23/16 2:36pm
I don't have a problem with small gyms--so long as they are FULL.
audioenvy
10/23/16 2:36pm
this. The gyms are small and don't get filled. And trust us, we don't complain
yballa09
10/23/16 2:39pm
This
cougareugene
10/23/16 2:40pm
No one says Duke plays in a small gym.
cougarstolz
10/23/16 7:50pm
If you don't think gym size and opponent strength matters to recruits, you're crazy.
RichieRich
10/23/16 2:36pm
Because BYU's recruiting classes have been going down hill while in WCC.
soupie
10/23/16 2:39pm
How long can we rely on Lone Peak to supply our talent? Our main talent is Lone Peak/legacy guys right now.
RichieRich
10/23/16 2:47pm
IDK. Ask Dastrup, Bryant, Yoeli etc.
soupie
10/23/16 2:49pm
Lone Peak has been a great pipeline. The last couple of years have shown talent
gwalker
10/23/16 2:50pm
LOL. That's a sample size problem. We have been very fortunate to have so many
Epileptic Beagle
10/23/16 2:51pm
Is it the gym sizes or the sloppy inefficient system we run on the team?
BYUtka
10/23/16 4:43pm
Winning matters more...just ask Gonzaga
84 Grad
10/23/16 2:53pm
Are you sure those are the players you want
seryran
10/23/16 4:32pm
Recruits that care about quality of opponents and game experience? Isn't that
cougarnerd
10/23/16 4:37pm
As a fan, you really need a reality check
Heinz57
10/23/16 5:30pm
You want to know my reality?
seryran
10/23/16 5:47pm
BYU would have landed Jabari and Jackson if they were in the
Mathew
10/23/16 6:59pm
Jabari very specifically said he wanted to play for Coach K. I don't know about
Game Changer
10/23/16 7:17pm
Coach K has said time and time again he'd become LDS & be at BYU if they were P5
ryebrye
10/23/16 8:31pm
I don't think anyone is trying to slight Gonzaga. Most all of us respect your
cougarnerd
10/23/16 8:10pm
Of course it is. 18 year old kids care about that stuff and I want the best possible ones I can get.
RichieRich
10/23/16 5:48pm
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Epileptic Beagle
10/23/16 6:30pm
Solid post, until we win a WCC championship we do look insecure with HS gym talk
DumpsterFire
10/23/16 2:37pm
Seriously. I know we all expected to destroy the WCC but we haven't won a single
Jericho
10/23/16 2:39pm
But that has WAY more to do with Gonzaga than the rest of the WCC. They are
Epileptic Beagle
10/23/16 2:57pm
Gonzaga has an uncanny ability to reload but BYU basketball hasn't been
Jericho
10/23/16 3:05pm
That's the point tho. BYU hasn't been that great and they would be at the top
Epileptic Beagle
10/23/16 3:07pm
And since we aren't, we have nothing we can say...
Jericho
10/23/16 3:41pm
Yes, it's been a vexing problem...
icecougar
10/23/16 6:36pm
So when did we have those really good bigs and crappy guards?
HootnHoller
10/24/16 2:00am
2011-12 we had Brandon Davies, Charles Abouo, Noah Hartsock and...
icecougar
10/24/16 12:09pm
I don't even know what the complaint is about.
Tricky
10/24/16 10:47am
I have defended the WCC including the gym sizes every chance I get.
soupie
10/23/16 2:38pm
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!
RichieRich
10/23/16 3:26pm
Oh surrrrrrrree. And next you're going to tell us the rims are all 10' tall
whirl
10/24/16 7:15am
Sure, why not? Love that scene from Hoosiers.
soupie
10/24/16 7:17am
Since you bring it up, here are the frustrations with the WCC
cougareugene
10/23/16 2:39pm
It's hard to recruit when the chances are slim to make the tournament
seryran
10/23/16 3:58pm
Did Watson transfer?
BYU '80
10/23/16 4:05pm
Yes, he transferred to SDSU. Didn't want to play in an empty gym at USF
cougareugene
10/23/16 4:06pm
So,it sounds like you are saying that it is hopeless for the bottom schools?
cougareugene
10/23/16 4:05pm
It's hard to shame schools fans when the team isn't over .500
seryran
10/23/16 4:30pm
Is it that, or the history of one and done?
BYUtka
10/23/16 4:44pm
^only knows 5 years of WCC history, and doesn't remember MWC history accurately
Schultz is back
10/23/16 6:07pm
Wrong.
cougareugene
10/23/16 9:54pm
^^I love the MWC. I have tons of friends in the MW. They love me in the MWC.
TunaNoCrust
10/24/16 9:03am
I don't share your love of the MWC. Sorry.
cougareugene
10/24/16 1:02pm
The WCC is a quality conference and I would have felt
gwalker
10/23/16 2:40pm
Amen!
SeattleBYUfan
10/23/16 3:44pm
The only attitude I want to see from BYU
Heinz57
10/23/16 5:22pm
Good post. Don't attribute the whining of a few to the whole fan base
Rivers Cuomo
10/23/16 2:40pm
Good Point
seryran
10/23/16 3:24pm
+10
BringYourUltimate
10/23/16 10:35pm
Yes, please understand that many of us are embarrassed by the under-belly of our
jaba166
10/23/16 10:44pm
My problem is 100% with the environments, of course gonzaga and st. Mary's are great but after that if falls off pretty
Cabadapeste
10/23/16 2:40pm
Bingo. When you turn on a basketball game and you can hear individual
jaredm
10/23/16 7:45pm
Welcome, come back and post often. Regarding HS gyms the larger issue to me is
BYUfan92
10/23/16 2:41pm
You asked so I'll give you an honest answer. BYU fans have had aspirations
Epileptic Beagle
10/23/16 2:48pm
Shot calling time: WCC gets 3 bids this year.
gwalker
10/23/16 2:53pm
Hallelujah
Epileptic Beagle
10/23/16 2:56pm
Respect the Honesty completely
seryran
10/23/16 3:42pm
Well said. I think being respectful is very important.
Styro
10/23/16 10:19pm
I think those types of comments, which I myself have made,
ChiCityCoug
10/23/16 2:48pm
We can't complain about needing more competitive games until
Archaeovagrant
10/23/16 3:14pm
Agreed, I just wonder if it is hard for our payers to get up for some games.
ChiCityCoug
10/23/16 4:36pm
It's a small percentage. The vast majority of us couldn't care less about
Bob Vance
10/23/16 2:50pm
Honestly, I don't think gym size is as much of an issue as the layout.
King Philip
10/23/16 2:53pm
Know that it's a vocal minority making this complaint. Most of us are very
runnincoug
10/23/16 2:54pm
As I always say.. The court is the same size.
Count Cougar
10/23/16 2:55pm
I really liked the offseason coaching hires in the WCC........
mokelembembe
10/23/16 3:07pm
Give them a couple of years and they'll be tough outs soon enough.
seryran
10/23/16 3:52pm
Most fans don't care. The vocal minority cares. I just want great competition and don't care
ocmyhome
10/23/16 3:14pm
Why doesn't gonzaga play byu in the Spokane arena every year?
Mtspokanecoug
10/23/16 3:14pm
The Kennel is considered one of the top places to play at
seryran
10/23/16 3:50pm
I'm pretty sure this has everything to do with Gonzaga being a great team
Bluedarts
10/23/16 3:52pm
Because they would lose some of their competitive advantage
Schultz is back
10/23/16 6:17pm
So how would you explain the WCC tournament in Vegas?
seryran
10/23/16 6:42pm
I'm not saying BYU would get a large portion, just a larger portion.
Schultz is back
10/23/16 7:43pm
I know a ton of BYU fans and students who can't get tickets to the WCC tourney
cougareugene
10/23/16 9:58pm
Size always matters.
LaVellIfIKnow
10/23/16 3:21pm
And to echo others, outside of Gonzaga, St Mary's and BYU,
LaVellIfIKnow
10/23/16 3:24pm
I like the empty small gyms because it is so easy to get s ticket. But losing
gstodd
10/23/16 3:22pm
I love EVERYTHING about the WCC except the level of play at times.
mantis mutu
10/23/16 3:22pm
We can't win the freaking conference, please don't take our huge arena pride
Bluedarts
10/23/16 3:23pm
The real problem isn't the size of the gyms but rather how empty the gyms are.
sandtrapcougar
10/23/16 3:34pm
I just want to make the tournament. Mark Few called out the conference for
ColdFusion1989
10/23/16 3:51pm
Trust me I'm all for complaining how bad these teams are.
seryran
10/23/16 4:35pm
BYU fans are not "literally" the only ones who knock your courts. You think it's a big recruiting pitch?
The Underminer
10/23/16 3:51pm
I can assure you that you don't want those players then.
seryran
10/23/16 4:10pm
Lol.
The Underminer
10/23/16 4:52pm
Agreed. The "high school gym" thing is and always has been dumb. Just like a lot
RealComfortableJeans
10/23/16 3:57pm
You don't think recruits watching BYU play in front of 1000 fans in a HS type
BYUfan92
10/23/16 8:53pm
Considering Few has called out the WCC for failing to improve and for dragging
benny1982
10/23/16 4:03pm
It's the P12s. I do hate the crappy refs tho
Y4LYFE
10/23/16 4:10pm
Thanks for your comments...I like to get feedback from conference mates.
silentvelcro
10/23/16 4:11pm
It's not the gyms I'm worried about. I'm more concerned with officiating
Harrison0Yfan
10/23/16 4:12pm
For me I have no problem with the kennel
The Maestro
10/23/16 4:35pm
That's a perfectly good point to make
seryran
10/23/16 4:38pm
I don't think people are referring to the Kennel when they say "high school gym"
shakinbaker
10/23/16 4:39pm
No P5 team considered any other WCC team for expansion
Heinz57
10/23/16 5:20pm
It's odd to say no P5 conference considered any other WCC school. It's obvious
Polecat
10/23/16 5:30pm
It isn't just about football, it is the entire BYU sports
Heinz57
10/23/16 5:33pm
Right...which Was not my point. You asked why no other WCC school was
Polecat
10/23/16 6:53pm
Whatever happens, I hope that decades from now, BYU is still playing Gonzaga
Game Changer
10/23/16 5:35pm
There is a perception they think they're better because many actually do.
LiquidUte
10/23/16 5:36pm
it'll be nice when yewtah fans finally get their own message board...
dultso
10/23/16 6:46pm
Good thing Utah isn't in the WCC. It'd be much harder for them to be this nice
Harrison0Yfan
10/23/16 9:49pm
I remember the Utes mocking and belittling Saint Marys gym
cougareugene
10/23/16 10:03pm
From the fanbase that constantly says they are too good for byu
BYU '80
10/23/16 10:32pm
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cvd6262
10/23/16 10:33pm
Gym smack is kind of like driving a sports car or buying a very large tool box.
Acorn
10/23/16 5:43pm
I wish the worst BYU heard from opp. fans was complaints about our gym size...
jomo
10/23/16 5:52pm
I for one have no problem with your gym size
bald man
10/23/16 6:09pm
Agree. Until BYU dominates the WCC we should shut up. Plus all other sports are
Big Time 55
10/23/16 6:13pm
Amen! The complaints about gym sizes are stupid and petty.
Kerbouchard
10/23/16 6:18pm
"And Byu fans are literally the only ones who says it" Um, no. Not at all.
BeardedSpock
10/23/16 6:21pm
You're right, you're right and you're wrong (or almost right)...
icecougar
10/23/16 6:28pm
thanks for your post. you make some good points. not all BYU fans
mindzeYe
10/23/16 6:33pm
I dont have a problem with or really care about gym size, what bothers me
CougarsFanSince80s
10/23/16 6:34pm
On t.v. it looks awful when basket is attached to the wall.
PJMort
10/23/16 6:52pm
I was thrilled to join the WCC, love their fans, and enjoy visiting their arenas. Most HS gym talk is non die hard fans.
Pick-Six Coug
10/23/16 7:00pm
I dont like the WCC for the same reasons Zag fans state, it is weak below #3!
SportsRoad
10/23/16 7:16pm
I dont think we are talking about your gym
RedSox
10/23/16 7:37pm
Post of the day!
warp
10/23/16 7:43pm
Agree it is petty
Incentivize
10/23/16 7:47pm
I love the WCC. Don't care about small gyms
OliverGranger
10/23/16 7:58pm
I have a major beef with Gonzaga's program. Every year Few goes somewhere
Rocketman
10/23/16 8:27pm
Agreed 100%. I have only heard it on this CB and I bet it comes from teenagers.
scott715
10/23/16 8:38pm
Request to every WCC program not named Gonzaga or SMC: quit sucking.
byubyu
10/23/16 8:57pm
A professional never blames his tools. Boise St. excels in football with way
Jasbo
10/23/16 9:56pm
BSU wishes they could seat 43000
BYU '80
10/23/16 10:34pm
I agree. I have always been embarrassed by our fans that mock other teams for their arena size.
Styro
10/23/16 10:12pm
I realize I am late in responding, but we here in San Diego have never thought this of any of the WCC gyms. In fact,
Crowgar
10/23/16 10:58pm
I am from San Diego too and have no problem with the gyms, but
RoyalBlueY
10/23/16 11:52pm
Yeah Ute fans bring it up more than anybody to prove how they are better than
jensen46
10/24/16 6:02am
I love to remind Utes of their performance
soupie
10/24/16 7:09am
It is our way of ribbing you guys. But here is a reason to change:
TheLoneCougar
10/24/16 8:27am
BYU and Gonzaga need to leave the WCC for an expanded AAC
boscatar
10/24/16 8:49am
I don't think the majority of the "HS gyms" comments come from BYU fans....
CoachSpeak
10/24/16 10:19am
Attendance is the contest BYU always wins!
Eddie
10/24/16 10:40am
A lot of the high school gym talk comes from Cougars
CaughtForaTouchdown
10/24/16 12:38pm
Also, the biggest problem Cougars have with the WCC isn't
CaughtForaTouchdown
10/24/16 12:42pm
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