and that is what I am referring to who cares when MJ won his first title and how many seasons Tim Duncan played when MJ retired. There are not that many all time greats playing now and there are many more teams now than there were back then. MJ had to play all time greats night in and night out from his rookie year to his retirement and in the process went 6-0 against the best the league could throw at him in the finals. There is no comparison.