To me its about quality opponents, not necessarily just P5s

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Sep 20, 2018
12:42:22pm

CaliWG All-American

To me its about quality opponents, not necessarily just P5s

There are 10-15 non-P5 programs that belong in the same category as the P5s in terms of quality home games. Boise State, Houston, UCF, USF, SDSU, Fresno State, Memphis, Colorado State, Cincinnati, Navy, ECU, etc. are just as good, if not better, than the mid- to low level P5s. If BYU can get 4 or 5 home games against some combination of P5s & high level G5s, I'm fine with that.

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If the scheduling rumors are true, it shows where TH sits regarding Independence

mudpupper

9/20/18 10:48am

The problem is our P5 scheduling front-loads us which can be problematic. Would love to see more balance

scootsy

9/20/18 10:53am

I bet front loading is still a huge issue and it seems we always travel first

mudpupper

9/20/18 11:05am

I really don’t see a front loaded schedule being a huge issue

Pretorian

9/20/18 12:48pm

Front loading will always be an issue, since we're everyone's nonconference foe.

9/20/18 1:08pm

Nobody has bought out of a game in 7 years.

Benfica1

9/20/18 1:48pm

Even Boise St plays against P5s in September

Coogar2

9/20/18 3:33pm

Gotta play P5s to be paid like a P5

Coogar2

9/20/18 3:35pm

Indy SOS has been easier than when we were in the MW. Last year we played 6 MW

Mr. Scoobs

9/20/18 10:55am

If you want to recruit the best you need to play the best. Top notch LDS kids dont want to come to BYU to play MWC teams

9/20/18 10:57am

he may have no choice. as an indy, byu needs to get big names for the eyeballs

9/20/18 10:57am

I agree it is about eyeballs and renewing our contract with ESPN

Remigius

9/20/18 11:17am

decent point.

9/20/18 11:26am

I think we need more Hawaii, if only to deal with the front-load problem

boscatar

9/20/18 11:22am

That 2021 schedule is legit for Independence

Mark320

9/20/18 10:58am

6 P5s plus utah and Boise St. I love it.

chilango

9/20/18 11:05am

I see what you did there.

9/20/18 11:07am

That's fine with me. I'd rather play at least 5-6 P5 teams per year, plus utah

chilango

9/20/18 10:58am

It also looks like 2-for-1's are mostly history

CaliWG

9/20/18 11:00am

I'd say current A&M and Clemson are top tier right now. A&M recently named the

Mr. Scoobs

9/20/18 11:06am

Florida & Miami have had more success than either of those programs

CaliWG

9/20/18 11:14am

We didn't do a 2-for-1 with Michigan State. Even with Wisky, it was really a

chilango

9/20/18 11:07am

Universities no longer want to payout the big

FanofBYU

9/20/18 2:11pm

We will be on the right side of the divide when the P5 look to break away

boscatar

9/20/18 11:05am

maybe. otoh, society seems to moving away from the mormon way

9/20/18 11:08am

Society has been moving in that direction since the dawn of time. Not sure that

chilango

9/20/18 11:13am

why do you thnk the p12 didn't take us??

9/20/18 11:26am

They also didn't take us 30 years ago, or 50 years ago, or 80 years ago. Not

chilango

9/20/18 12:10pm

That is the Indy goal. Side with the "haves" as much as possible. Preservation.

Benfica1

9/20/18 1:52pm

What rumors are you referring to?

Jomilo21

9/20/18 11:10am

See the linked post.

mudpupper

9/20/18 11:11am

I love having games against the big guys on the schedule, but I'd really like to

Martin Van Nostrand

9/20/18 11:13am

Arizona, Cal, OSU, WSU, Virginia, GA Tech, Missouri, Ole Miss, Minnesota, Baylor

boscatar

9/20/18 11:26am

I forgot about UVA and NC State on future schedules, those are good example

Martin Van Nostrand

9/20/18 11:40am

Lower and mid P5 don't want to play us when we're up and they're down.

cdr88

9/20/18 2:34pm

100% agree, I was stoked to see AK on that list. My brother and I talk about

CougaRR4L

9/20/18 4:40pm

Do you think Espn would keep paying us if we did that?

scottm

9/20/18 11:21am

He most definitely prefers Independence to being in the MWC. If we are in the

unctoothman

9/20/18 11:29am

I don't disagree with the general premise, but note that Wisky has USF & Hawaii

boscatar

9/20/18 3:40pm

Two reasons: boosters and recruits

unctoothman

9/20/18 4:36pm

We need a couple more quality independents, so we can avoid front-loading

Hill4Heisman

9/20/18 12:18pm

I think Liberty will be a solid indy opponent in about 4 or 5 years

boscatar

9/20/18 3:47pm

in 2020 & 2021 we play 6,7 P5's (counting Utah), but only 2, 3 at home

mncstr

9/20/18 12:31pm

To me its about quality opponents, not necessarily just P5s

CaliWG

9/20/18 12:42pm

Those are the worst teams to schedule in my mind.

Hill4Heisman

9/20/18 12:48pm

Depends on the P5, and the G5. Beating Houston looks better than beating Purdue,

chilango

9/20/18 12:54pm

There's a huge difference between beating UCF & NMSU

CaliWG

9/20/18 1:04pm

Right and unfortunately that's how a lot of P5 ADs look at BYU.

cdr88

9/20/18 2:38pm

They all look at BYU more favorably as an Independent than they would as a G5

unctoothman

9/20/18 2:44pm

First 3 maybe, last 7 no

unctoothman

9/20/18 2:43pm

Houston and SDSU are decent home games

boscatar

9/20/18 3:45pm

We don't need to have a magical 11-1 season and Jan 1 game every year.

Boomcannon

9/20/18 12:40pm

RE: If the scheduling rumors are true, it shows where TH sits regarding

brickwall

9/20/18 12:59pm

8-4 Indy > 10-2 MWC... all day.

9/20/18 3:05pm

People need to stop with the CFP... We could go 12-0 and not even be close.

blackshirts

9/20/18 4:33pm

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