It would be moral to pay the contract or play in Provo.

Sep 21, 2018
12:34:42am

Cougstreak Walk-on

You must do much on the business front. Welcome to the real world.

Not at all like a marriage. Horrible example. It is more like signing a takeover with an out clause. Situation changed so ND can opt out and pay out. Simple.

Also ND is a big deal, don’t be silly. If they are not why do you care....take the money and run.

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Upcoming games being negotiated:

The Y's Insider

9/20/18 10:23am

I would love all of those. Less so Wyoming but I will take it. That would be great

cougarmanguy

9/20/18 10:24am

Already announced, correct?

AD4

9/20/18 10:25am

yes - at least from the Wyoming side

cougarmanguy

9/20/18 10:27am

Aside from WY and SDSU I think this is all speculation (wishful thinking)

Benfica1

9/20/18 11:50am

What has been confirmed about SDSU?

GOR

9/20/18 1:12pm

SDSU is on the 2019/20 schedule. Playing WY in 2022/4.

Benfica1

9/20/18 2:03pm

So, additional games being negotiated with SDSU and Wyoming?

boscatar

9/20/18 10:24am

What does being negotiated?

Archaea

9/20/18 10:25am

Trying to work out agreements. Nothing "done".

The Y's Insider

9/20/18 10:28am

If we do a neutral site with Notre Dame, it must be Vegas. That's the only way

boscatar

9/20/18 10:25am

ND already owes us two games in Provo. I wouldn't schedule any more until

Hinta

9/20/18 10:29am

I think technically they only owe us one, no? The second one would be on the

chilango

9/20/18 10:30am

Two 2 for 1 deals. They just owe one game in Provo to finish that one deal. The other 3 are cancelled already I think.

Turnpike Lane

9/20/18 10:31am

I'd be OK if they finished the 2-for-1 by playing us in Las Vegas

Richbyu

9/20/18 10:37am

Only if they gave us all of the ticket/TV revenue.

dYrtbYkerYder

9/20/18 3:33pm

1 game in Provo OR $1mil buyout. I'd rather play ND in Vegas than not play

boscatar

9/20/18 10:46am

No way would it be the "moral" thing for ND not to give us a home game...I can't

BlooCoog

9/20/18 1:44pm

It's not moral to follow the contract terms and pay the negotiated buyout?

boscatar

9/20/18 3:50pm

Is it moral to cheat on your spouse as long as there is a contractual prenup in place to assess "buyout" damages?

SingleStrapBackpack

9/20/18 3:57pm

I'll take logical fallacies for 300, Alex

boscatar

9/20/18 4:07pm

if you have a prenup and cheat/get divorced, aren't you following the contract terms and paying the negotiated buyout?

SingleStrapBackpack

9/20/18 4:27pm

A more appropriate comparison would be a business contract...not infidelity

boscatar

9/20/18 4:43pm

regardless of the rest, for the record – of course I also think infidelity is immoral 🙂

SingleStrapBackpack

9/20/18 5:31pm

Exactly. He is clueless on business dealings.

Cougstreak

9/21/18 12:35am

btw, cheating on a spouse is definitely immoral

boscatar

9/20/18 4:08pm

How's this thread get so side-tracked???

Y-Zag

9/20/18 5:38pm

What if the spouse is Bin Laden? Ha! 🙂

whitey1980

9/21/18 1:53am

It would be moral to pay the contract or play in Provo.

Cougstreak

9/21/18 12:34am

ND is currently ranked 8th.

BlueBeliever

9/21/18 1:44am

ND will fulfill the terms of the contract. We do not know the terms.

ParentingNotForSissy

9/20/18 12:11pm

ND would want to use it as a recruitment trip. CA or TX etc

Cougstreak

9/21/18 12:29am

ND better be Vegas. (...tip of the hat to boscatar)

Florwood

9/20/18 10:26am

in the raiders stadium

Deleted

9/20/18 10:26am

Yeah, Detroit would be a home game for them, there are tons of Golden Domers

chilango

9/20/18 10:28am

Every neutral game is a home game for ND. A lot of road ones too.

jsjohnson1278

9/20/18 2:06pm

Not necessarily. A lot of Notre Damers I know were complaining the last couple

chilango

9/20/18 3:52pm

RE: Not necessarily. A lot of Notre Damers I know were complaining the last

Cougstreak

9/21/18 12:37am

ND owes BYU a game in Provo first.

Benfica1

9/20/18 11:55am

I love most of those, but are you sure it's yet another H/H with Wyoming? I hope

chilango

9/20/18 10:26am

Boise State is probably working on a game with BYU right now.

Benfica1

9/20/18 11:56am

Any chance Arky, Clemson, A&M and Notre Dame are in November?

boscatar

9/20/18 10:27am

Nope.

TailgateU

9/20/18 4:07pm

Notre Dame better be in Vegas

CaliWG

9/20/18 10:27am

Notre Dame will be 1 game in a neutral venue after we play 1 game in South Bend

frontrowcougar

9/20/18 10:28am

Are you hearing this, or just a guess?

Richbyu

9/20/18 10:29am

It's just a joke. An angry, bitter joke. ND can kiss my hiney.

frontrowcougar

9/20/18 10:34am

Not sure why we'd agree to that. I'd rather just take the buyout.

chilango

9/20/18 10:29am

A neutral is obviously not in the spirit of the original deal, but...

byujdmba

9/20/18 10:31am

I would take a neutral in Dallas or Vegas. Not Detroit--not appealing.

Richbyu

9/20/18 10:34am

A neutral site game in Detroit would be cool at some point, but not as a

chilango

9/20/18 10:37am

Yeah. There'd be about 2,000 BYU fans at that game. Vegas would be majority BYU

Richbyu

9/20/18 10:38am

Sure, but not with yet another game in South Bend as part of the deal. And the

chilango

9/20/18 10:35am

I'd be okay with a H/N series with ND after they complete the last 2 for 1

CaliWG

9/20/18 10:32am

... with the neutral site being in Chicago...

NewMexiCoug

9/20/18 11:52am

Right - the "neutral" site in Chicago 😉

MajorPain

9/20/18 1:32pm

ND will only do a neutral site game that is close to a recruiting base for them.

Cougstreak

9/21/18 12:27am

I'd love to play ND two more times and have one in South Bend. I haven't been to SB for a BYU game yet, and would love

MaxxPower

9/21/18 4:24pm

A schedule that gives us the best chance to beat strong P5s is better than tours

MajorPain

9/21/18 5:59pm

Don’t want anything to do with ND until we get our return game

spugeddy24

9/20/18 10:29am

Exactly. They can come to Provo. A neutral with them isnt that awesome.

Turnpike Lane

9/20/18 10:32am

Put it in Vegas. Close enough for us to pack it.

TailgateU

9/20/18 4:07pm

no. home or bust.

jkccoug

9/20/18 5:02pm

It was embarrassing how much BYU kissed ND's rear end....

Richbyu

9/20/18 10:36am

Well, we thought they had our backs when we went indy.

Archaeovagrant

9/20/18 2:40pm

Yep. They need to show up in Provo.

ataylor

9/20/18 10:46am

You're missing the point that the games are guaranteed for NBC or ABC broadcast

boscatar

9/20/18 10:50am

There’s another point which is to get marquee games in Provo. Add to that the

ataylor

9/20/18 10:59am

Except that ND told TH that they will buyout the game rather than play in Provo

boscatar

9/20/18 11:32am

Huh. ND isn't shy about being pansies

Ironhide

9/20/18 11:52am

Then let them buy out the game. We'll take the cash

spugeddy24

9/20/18 1:07pm

Look at last weekend's game - on ABC. Skip ND and get a game w/ another national

unctoothman

9/20/18 12:05pm

Not me. ND deserves nothing at this point. We can play plenty of other teams.

spugeddy24

9/20/18 1:07pm

In Provo?

Cougstreak

9/21/18 12:39am

How much of this do you think has to do with TH and being too nice

Punk Philosopher

9/20/18 2:37pm

I don't think BYU has ever played Clemson or Arkansas

CougarsFanSince80s

9/20/18 10:36am

They haven't

Indy Coug

9/20/18 10:37am

Notre Dame needs to come to Provo before we do any other games with them

Huge Manatee

9/20/18 10:38am

Not gonna happen. ND will buy us out before coming to LES.

The Y's Insider

9/20/18 10:41am

Free money then. I like it.

mudpupper

9/20/18 10:42am

Then take the money. ND can stick it.

Turnpike Lane

9/20/18 10:44am

Amen to this. No integrity by ND not to fulfill the contract.

Bostonblue

9/20/18 1:10pm

Then take the money. I don't care about playing them that much

Huge Manatee

9/20/18 10:47am

Why? We signed a contract that allows them to buyout the last game.

boscatar

9/20/18 10:51am

Who are you, 80k? Every contract has a "buyout"

Huge Manatee

9/20/18 10:53am

I'm not looking to make or collect the buyout.

boscatar

9/20/18 11:33am

Why does ND refuse to come to Provo?

CT98

9/20/18 3:37pm

Because they suck.

joelvandyne

9/20/18 3:38pm

They agreed to play ACC teams, money and full schedule for road games

Cougstreak

9/21/18 2:10am

I would be happy for BYU plays in South Bend again. Seeing a game there is a

Natedog916

9/20/18 10:44am

H/H with a beatable SEC team? Awesome! H/H with an elite ACC team? Awesome!

Dissenter

9/20/18 10:45am

Screw Notre Dame they owe us a home visit.

IceCreamButt

9/20/18 10:50am

A game in college station would be awesome!

Cougz19

9/20/18 10:51am

Never ever play in Laramie

Croweater

9/20/18 10:56am

But if you do, bring bodyguards.

Y-Zag

9/20/18 11:43am

Wouldn't that be H/T Wyoming?

Gil Buckman

9/20/18 10:57am

Turd

Richbyu

9/20/18 11:14am

Trailer?

PGVikingDad

9/20/18 12:00pm

Tent?

CT98

9/20/18 3:38pm

Clemson? I'll be shocked. Can't remember the last time they went farther away

Left Shark Coug

9/20/18 10:58am

Good because Utah isn’t the Midwest

YIsForBrigham

9/20/18 11:13am

Sure, lots of guys from Utah at Clemson.

Left Shark Coug

9/20/18 11:16am

Clemson? That would be cool. I'd like to watch their guys run down the hill.

pink22

9/20/18 11:05am

Do visitors also enter the field that way?

scootsy

9/20/18 11:13am

No.

Left Shark Coug

9/20/18 12:38pm

cool tradition, but c'mon, most exciting 25 seconds in football? lol no

Dissenter

9/20/18 11:19am

That would be "Enter Sandman" with Virginia Tech

jaredm

9/20/18 12:36pm

Wyoming?! Giddy’up!!

FairWeather-L.I.T.S.

9/20/18 11:14am

"One of these things is not like the other"

(Private)

9/20/18 11:34am

TH recently mentioned AFA

Count Cougar

9/20/18 11:41am

I have heard about AFA, but I'd rather not play them unless we need to fill a

Benfica1

9/20/18 11:52am

I’d much rather see teams like....

Pretorian

9/20/18 12:42pm

uh, why?

TPcoug

9/20/18 12:43pm

because they are more winnable P5s (not saying I agree with Pretorian, just stating what I'm sure is his reason)

SingleStrapBackpack

9/20/18 12:52pm

You got it 👍🏼

Pretorian

9/20/18 1:18pm

I get it. Winnable P5’s. I’m sure Tom Holmoe is trying for those as well.

SouthernBlueBlood

9/20/18 12:53pm

Gotta have a mix. Arizonas and Cals mixed with Wisconsins and Washingtons

YIsForBrigham

9/20/18 12:55pm

Totally agree, if we could do 3 or 4 winnable P5 with 1 or 2 big names plus

Pretorian

9/20/18 1:27pm

Ideally I think we want a schedule like this:

YIsForBrigham

9/20/18 1:44pm

I would suggest an annual game with Hawaii like we do with BSU.

BYUHgrad

9/20/18 6:02pm

I don’t think it’s worth playing them so often. The trip to the islands is a

chilango

9/20/18 6:24pm

I like playing Hawaii but it significantly reduces our flexibility

YIsForBrigham

9/20/18 6:32pm

It gives us an extra game every other year. That's worth it, plus a hawaii trip

TailgateU

9/22/18 7:52am

I agree. My only quibble is I don’t think we get much out of playing Utah State

chilango

9/20/18 6:18pm

I live in aggie-infested territory. So I love the USU game.

Y-Zag

9/20/18 6:24pm

You live in Ogden?

dYrtbYkerYder

9/20/18 8:03pm

Southern Idaho, close enough USU gives kids in-state tuition.

Y-Zag

9/20/18 8:06pm

I agree on both accounts. But usu is probably here to stay as an annual matchup.

YIsForBrigham

9/20/18 6:34pm

3,000 s.f. is way more house than I need, but I'd love for my football team to be the mansion equivalent 🙂

SingleStrapBackpack

9/20/18 1:49pm

What - you don't need a bball court in your own house?

MajorPain

9/20/18 1:54pm

Need? Definitely not (though I knew someone at BYU who's parents had one in the basement). Want? Also no 🙂

SingleStrapBackpack

9/20/18 2:05pm

Exactly, we’re talking football program goals... gotta go big

Pretorian

9/20/18 2:03pm

Problem is that some of the teams mentioned don't want to risk a loss, they are

Benfica1

9/20/18 2:08pm

You're missing Kansas if you want crappy P5s.

TailgateU

9/22/18 7:50am

How do you know this?

Y-Phile

9/20/18 1:46pm

Would like to see an emphasis on playing P5s in major metro areas: enhances...

MajorPain

9/20/18 1:53pm

If Notre Dame is in Detroit, I never want to play those hosers again.

andrewg3

9/20/18 2:42pm

I'd love to see the Cougars at Kyle Field! I'll wear royal, but might don a

TailgateU

9/20/18 4:06pm

Screw ND. Take the money and donate it to the missionary program on their behalf

timpjynx

9/20/18 4:21pm

Just don't donate it to the Notre Dame law school!

boscatar

9/20/18 4:57pm

Funny but no, definitely put it back into football.

IceCreamButt

9/20/18 6:35pm

TAMU would be great

JackStack

9/20/18 4:36pm

Please let the Clemson games happen

CarolinaCoug

9/20/18 6:11pm

Play P5s to get paid like P5. Get paid like P5, get invited to P5.

Coogar2

9/20/18 6:39pm

I'd love everything except Wyoming....wait, no, that would be fun to crush them

CharlottesvilleCoug

9/20/18 9:29pm

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