They are a mid-tier program in the PAC12

May 10, 2019
3:35:42pm

wilsdad All-American

Oregon, Washington, Stanford and USC are all more highly regarded than Utah. If they are the top tier then the next 4 are the mid tier. How many times has Utah been to the Rose Bowl since they joined the PAC-12? I think that about covers it.

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1993–present: 25 games since Utah turned the tide in the rivalry

ataylor

5/9/19 10:16pm

I hate you for this post!

BYUALWAYSNUM1

5/9/19 10:39pm

RE: 1993–present: 25 games since Utah turned the tide in the rivalry

2FarGone

5/10/19 12:09am

Bradley’s knee was down!

Tsisquan

5/10/19 12:15am

I didn't care for Kai Nacua and Austin McChesney getting ejected in 2016

ChurroNieves

5/10/19 10:23am

But that's the nature of these games. They're almost always close. Even when

Throwaway59840

5/10/19 10:52am

You're right. Just a lamentation really.

ChurroNieves

5/10/19 11:58am

Seriously knew I was cursed. Born in 93 and all I’ve known is Utes beating their

bigbossbyu

5/10/19 2:16am

Hang in there. Didn't use to be like this. I remember watching in 1988 and....

BleedCougarBlue2

5/10/19 11:58am

Well...so much for a happy Friday...😳

m0resn0w

5/10/19 5:46am

Arrogance then pride...

wilsdad

5/10/19 7:21am

No doubt Utah is in our heads. Players, coaches and fans.

mm73

5/10/19 8:33am

Agreed. Players generally follow their coaches and KW "hates" losing to BYU.

BleedCougarBlue2

5/10/19 12:00pm

I see Grimes having this kind of fire in his belly....

wilsdad

5/10/19 12:16pm

Utah isn't "big time", but calling them a mid-tier team isn't accurate. As a *brand*, they're not in the same tier as

whitey1980

5/10/19 2:54pm

They are a mid-tier program in the PAC12

wilsdad

5/10/19 3:35pm

Are you not able to differentiate a brand from a team? I'm not arguing that Utah and USC are even in the same ballpark,

whitey1980

5/10/19 4:19pm

And that's one year....

wilsdad

5/10/19 5:56pm

Would love to see BYU turn this around.

Benfica1

5/10/19 8:56am

I think Utah had 6 turnovers

CrimsonCardinal

5/10/19 9:43am

It’s why a win this year means everything and nothing at the same time.

SlantRoute

5/10/19 9:11am

Welp, that is a depressing post to read to start my day off..

ColumbusCoug

5/10/19 9:25am

1988 is my vote for the turning point

rmreitz

5/10/19 10:23am

I can see that. But winning in Provo for the first time in over two decades and

ataylor

5/10/19 10:34am

So you’re telling me there’s a chance!

Cougzilla

5/10/19 10:35am

1995 is the turning point for me. 88 felt like a fluke and 93/94 felt like BYU

ALUF 1990

5/10/19 10:42am

Good post. I said it last year and I'll say it again. Our rivalry is

CougaRR4L

5/10/19 10:44am

The X-factor is P5 depth. Both teams have talented starters, but Utah has much more depth.

whitey1980

5/10/19 2:35pm

And this is the year Kyle showed up on the scene. No coincidence.

kansascougar

5/10/19 11:41am

I hate losing to the U but what I REALLY "despise" is their sheer arrogance....

BleedCougarBlue2

5/10/19 11:53am

It's amazing what a decade of wins turn into.

wilsdad

5/10/19 12:18pm

I have always gone with 2002-present.

Gentleman Stan

5/10/19 4:46pm

That’s fair, but I think the early 90s McBride Year’s laid the foundation for

ataylor

5/10/19 4:51pm

Reasonable minds can differ. I see the point, and it's well made.

Gentleman Stan

5/10/19 4:54pm

This post made me curious, and so I decided to check out the record of every BYU HC in the Rivalry Game, and it just

whitey1980

5/10/19 5:33pm

It also helps LaVell that he coached during the lowest point of Utah football.

Scratch

5/10/19 5:39pm

I’d argue LaVell has indirectly helped Utah football more than Utah football

ataylor

5/10/19 5:47pm

That’s a great find.

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