Independence is a good thing for BYU, but the worst thing about independence is

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Nov 18, 2020
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our bowl situation.

It sucks bad.

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Nick Carparelli Executive Director of Bowls does not see BYU in a NY6 bowl.

dave

11/18/20 2:12pm

The worst thing to happen would be to go undefeated and end up in potato bowl...

idacoug

11/18/20 2:13pm

I've been saying for quite sometime now that as an Independent, we are literally on the outside looking in...

Coug

11/18/20 2:15pm

Independence is a good thing for BYU, but the worst thing about independence is

idacoug

11/18/20 2:19pm

Agree. We play way more big games and P5's during the season as an Independent,

Dangerous

11/18/20 2:40pm

And nobody cares about the regular season games we play... they matter none because Conference play is king

Coug

11/18/20 2:56pm

I use been in complete agreement. As an independent it’s impossible to be in the

LyleLanley

11/18/20 2:44pm

Only positive is that it would shut up Jarom Jordan

Dangerous

11/18/20 2:38pm

It is only based on ranking. Nothing else. The bowls don't get to choose anythin

rcbyufan

11/18/20 2:13pm

False. Our ranking cannot force the committee to choose us

SlantRoute

11/18/20 2:26pm

Wow. You are wrong on this. How do people still not know how this works?

rcbyufan

11/18/20 2:32pm

Explain please

SlantRoute

11/18/20 2:38pm

See link.

rcbyufan

11/18/20 2:48pm

How do you not know?

LyleLanley

11/18/20 2:44pm

Please read the rules. See link. Click on #10

rcbyufan

11/18/20 2:38pm

True but expect us to be much lower in their initial poll. They are not the ap

LaserCoug

11/18/20 2:40pm

And that's fine. If you think the committee will rank us low, then yes we will

rcbyufan

11/18/20 2:46pm

I think your misunderstanding. They have no obligation to take us.

Blueto

11/18/20 3:04pm

This is incorrect. The *CFP* are directly controlling of NY6 participants

Doogal McCougar

11/18/20 2:41pm

Wonderful

acougfan

11/18/20 2:13pm

But independence! Undefeated! Exposure!

4th and Niner

11/18/20 2:14pm

If BYU is top 4, they are not going to NY6 for sure, they are in the playoff.

Lance71

11/18/20 2:14pm

That is what he said. Unless they make the playoff. No big bowl game.

dave

11/18/20 2:15pm

That's pretty accurate. BCS has got some backs to scratch that are way ahead of

Taysom 4 Heisman

11/18/20 2:18pm

Saying, "unless they make the playoff no big bowl game" is NONSENSICAL

rcbyufan

11/18/20 2:31pm

It sounds like outside of the 2 CFP games the other NY6 games do have a choice.

dave

11/18/20 2:35pm

Yeah. That is incorrect. For BYU to be left out it needs to be done at the

rcbyufan

11/18/20 2:44pm

How confident are you that we will be 7 without adding quality games? I'm not.

dave

11/18/20 2:47pm

I'm not confident of that fact at all. What I'm saying is the ranking determines

rcbyufan

11/18/20 2:50pm

I don't think this is correct. They have to take the highest ranked G5 team but

Blueto

11/18/20 2:57pm

RE: I don't think this is correct. They have to take the highest ranked G5 team

rcbyufan

11/18/20 3:09pm

Sigh. The NY6 Bowls are obligated to take teams based on rankings. That's it.

BYUMizzou

11/18/20 3:20pm

It doesn't HAVE to be, but the way this season is playing out, it seems likely that BYU will be more attractive

Byron McNertney

11/18/20 2:49pm

There's no game(s) we're going to be able to add which will magically get us into the top 4

Indy Coug

11/18/20 2:24pm

Not without a lot of P5 chaos. Goal needs to be top-8 to stay in the CFP Rankings for a NY6 qualification

Turnpike Lane

11/18/20 2:30pm

Only hope would be if Oregon's schedule opened up.

here's to hoping

11/18/20 2:41pm

he must not read CB

BlueFrog

11/18/20 2:14pm

I don't know who he is but dave's description of what he said is either way off

rcbyufan

11/18/20 2:16pm

Go have a listen... Link

dave

11/18/20 2:22pm

9 minute mark of the interview.

dave

11/18/20 2:25pm

That's Cartel Speech. I wonder if it's legally actionable.

spoxjox

11/18/20 2:15pm

It is at the start of hour 2 of Criddle's podcast yesterday. Have a listen.

dave

11/18/20 2:16pm

I'm pretty sure the REAL design of the big bowls is to make money.

Byron McNertney

11/18/20 2:17pm

Obviously. We’re not going to do a NY6 bowl and the CFP

TwinsRight

11/18/20 2:19pm

It sounded like he said top 4 playoff or nothing

dave

11/18/20 2:20pm

There will be a huge uproar if BYU is 10-0 and gets left out of a NY6. The

westsidecoug

11/18/20 2:21pm

Uproar from who? Not the P5 schools.

mudpupper

11/18/20 2:22pm

Almost every single national media member. I mean, c'mon, Kirk freaking

westsidecoug

11/18/20 2:28pm

depends how sensible the team getting in was. if it was worthy of a debate, i doubt would make too big a fuss about it

BlueFrog

11/18/20 2:45pm

Your last sentence doesn’t follow the rest of the post.

StalwartBraveTrue

11/18/20 2:22pm

We need a playoff spot.

dave

11/18/20 2:22pm

True but Carparelli’s statement suggests there is no way to do that unless we

StalwartBraveTrue

11/18/20 2:33pm

If BYU is a top 8 team in the rankings, they can't keep them out.

Turnpike Lane

11/18/20 2:23pm

Why not?

boogers

11/18/20 2:25pm

CFP Rankings are used for selection is why. If BYU qualifies based on those rankings, they are in.

Turnpike Lane

11/18/20 2:26pm

That says eight teams ranked lower than 12 have been invited. So if we are

bluesloth

11/18/20 2:34pm

Only guarantee is top-9 or better. 12th or higher not getting in unless in a P5.

Turnpike Lane

11/18/20 2:36pm

Where does it say that?

bluesloth

11/18/20 2:37pm

History of the CFP at-large selections.

Turnpike Lane

11/18/20 2:39pm

History also shows zero non-P5/ND at-large invites.

bluesloth

11/18/20 2:44pm

Right, and this year there are even more at-large spots than normal because of

westsidecoug

11/18/20 2:35pm

How many at-large selections have been outside the top 12? We are fighting for

StalwartBraveTrue

11/18/20 2:37pm

You CANNOT qualify for an at-large outside of top 12. This is because At-large

rcbyufan

11/18/20 2:42pm

So currently BYU is guaranteed?

StalwartBraveTrue

11/18/20 2:51pm

CFP Rankings have not come out yet. So until they do, no guarantees

Turnpike Lane

11/18/20 2:55pm

Ah, yes, I’m ahead of myself. Great point.

StalwartBraveTrue

11/18/20 5:51pm

No. We don't have a ranking yet. The committee's ranking is all that matters

rcbyufan

11/18/20 2:58pm

Not true. BYU has to be top 4 to make a playoff spot

SlantRoute

11/18/20 2:29pm

A top-9 team has never been left out of the CFP. #10 has a couple times. Be in the CFP top-9, and you are in.

Turnpike Lane

11/18/20 2:32pm

This is false. They are contractually obligated to take the highest ranked team

BYUCLA

11/18/20 4:09pm

If we finish top 10 and undefeated and get excluded from the NY6. The

Blueto

11/18/20 2:23pm

Why? We’ve been top G5 once in 30+ years

Tangotongo

11/18/20 3:00pm

I thought we all knew this already.

boogers

11/18/20 2:24pm

If the CFP committee ranks us high enough the bowls don’t have a choice in the

Junior Deputy

11/18/20 2:25pm

Actually pretty easy to leave BYU out. SOS.

StalwartBraveTrue

11/18/20 2:40pm

I see us starting at 12 in the CFP poll

kiyoshige

11/18/20 3:00pm

Nick sounds like a John Junker (Fiesta Bowl) disciple from BYU's 1996 season, good ol boy

CLCougar

11/18/20 2:31pm

But in 1996, BYU got one of the Top 5 bowls. It's a little bit of Apples and

Gentleman Stan

11/18/20 3:05pm

Wouldn't be the first time BYU was screwed over by the powers that be

Jericho

11/18/20 2:33pm

Psssshhh. “Executive Director...”

crm48

11/18/20 2:40pm

This is what I have said from the beginning; it's the playoff or nothing

2FarGone

11/18/20 2:48pm

the cartel controls the playoff rankings. it will be the tater bowl

claw

11/18/20 3:00pm

Huh, that sounds strangely like the definition of a cartel

cougarmeister

11/18/20 2:48pm

we are upset because the executive director of the advocating source to enhance

Littlerich

11/18/20 2:49pm

This is true. He is however very well connected to the system.

dave

11/18/20 2:51pm

If this is true, that a top 10 AP/CFP ranked team wouldn't get in a NY6 bowl

Little Mac

11/18/20 3:25pm

We won't be top 10 CFP

kiyoshige

11/18/20 3:36pm

Maybe you're right. Although I think the actual numbers are favorable to BYU

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