Texas and Oklahoma didn’t want to expand

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Mar 21, 2023
7:07:57pm

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If BYU was the "money shot", why did BYU languish for 11 years in independence

TrueBlue67

3/21/23 7:07pm

Texas and Oklahoma didn’t want to expand

kansascougar

3/21/23 7:07pm

Basically. Although, I think OU was more pro than UT.

Baylorbears11

3/21/23 9:06pm

Honor code

creameryon9th

3/21/23 7:08pm

2 main reasons

LaVellIfIKnow

3/21/23 7:09pm

Don't be stupid. It was the ISU Student Council holding us back!

SinkingQuffa

3/21/23 7:25pm

100%.

Idacoug

3/21/23 7:41pm

ESPN wasn't going to pay more than necessary out of the goodness of their hearts

Gustav

3/21/23 7:09pm

You also have to factor in the value BYU brings for adding the late night time

jreid191

3/21/23 7:11pm

A conference with decent games also changes the equation

SausageKing

3/21/23 7:13pm

it's all about deal leverage, just like the P12 now, BYU didn't have any w/ ESPN

3/21/23 7:10pm

RE: If BYU was the "money shot", why did BYU languish for 11 years in

cougarblue

3/21/23 7:12pm

I think the BIG12 would have expanded in 2016 if they were able to get BYU and another P5...

Coug

3/21/23 7:13pm

No way Utah could talk the left coasters into BYU

Pro Logic

3/21/23 7:24pm

I believe they could have because the PAC had to add someone and Utah was their pick...

Coug

3/21/23 7:29pm

I like your line of thinking, but BYU was never going to happen. Back when the

TrueBlue67

3/21/23 7:35pm

If BYU is worth $75M, BYU and Bingham High School would have added per team value for the Big 12

krindorr

3/21/23 8:04pm

Why TCU got in before BYU as BYUtv had a big announcement planned that day will

vagabonder

3/21/23 7:13pm

lawyers ruin everything

3/21/23 7:16pm

We didn't dig through the right trash cans to find out.

Pro Logic

3/21/23 7:25pm

Bronco said Sunday play was the issue

robin

3/21/23 11:37pm

They were waiting on BYU to change the design of Cosmo's head.

Mountain Rat

3/21/23 7:16pm

Timing was horrendous for BYU in 2011. The Big 12 wasn’t stable and EVERYTHING

rainorsnow

3/21/23 7:21pm

Where did you read that BYU made $1.5M a game from ESPN. Most indicators say

mudpupper

3/21/23 7:29pm

We weren't exactly in a position of strength. We needed ESPN badly.

zonacougar

3/21/23 7:39pm

Main reasons IMO: 1. Sunday play; 2. Concerns about academic freedom

Japan Coug

3/21/23 7:40pm

I blame WCC refs

ochobeeguy

3/21/23 7:43pm

Take it a step further. Blame the WCC

TNT

3/21/23 7:48pm

ND's current contract with NBC only makes them ~$25m/y

tacallaway

3/21/23 7:47pm

Wasn’t even Notre Dame recently only making as little as $15MM/yr from NBC? Strength in numbers/volume/content.

mulletino

3/21/23 7:47pm

How long ago did TNT say ESPN was using BYU like a lady of the evening?

TNT

3/21/23 7:59pm

Big 12 was a dysfunctional mess (because of Texas, not Bowlsby) and was opposed

BlooCoog

3/21/23 8:28pm

Agree with most of the reasons above, but the reason ESPN wouldn't pay big $$ to

BamaCoug

3/21/23 9:08pm

and being debt free allowed BYU to do it.

qwerew

3/21/23 9:26pm

I think BYU was well aware of the situation and since they didn't need the extra dollars to function profitably imo it

DJROSS

3/21/23 9:20pm

Part of it was knowing we were too big for the MWC and likes of the yewts

Brandoblueblood

3/21/23 10:41pm

You're 2nd comment highlights the precarious situation the PAC now faces

akbarishiwatsu

3/21/23 11:07pm

PAC didn’t screw over BYU in the 90’s, we did it ourselves. Said we wouldn’t go

gp232

3/21/23 11:37pm

That seems to contradict what Fehlberg said

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