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ochobeeguy
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I blame WCC refs
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If BYU was the "money shot", why did BYU languish for 11 years in independence
TrueBlue67
3/21/23 7:07pm
Texas and Oklahoma didn’t want to expand
kansascougar
3/21/23 7:07pm
Basically. Although, I think OU was more pro than UT.
Baylorbears11
3/21/23 9:06pm
Honor code
creameryon9th
3/21/23 7:08pm
2 main reasons
LaVellIfIKnow
3/21/23 7:09pm
Don't be stupid. It was the ISU Student Council holding us back!
SinkingQuffa
3/21/23 7:25pm
100%.
Idacoug
3/21/23 7:41pm
ESPN wasn't going to pay more than necessary out of the goodness of their hearts
Gustav
3/21/23 7:09pm
You also have to factor in the value BYU brings for adding the late night time
jreid191
3/21/23 7:11pm
A conference with decent games also changes the equation
SausageKing
3/21/23 7:13pm
it's all about deal leverage, just like the P12 now, BYU didn't have any w/ ESPN
g$
3/21/23 7:10pm
RE: If BYU was the "money shot", why did BYU languish for 11 years in
cougarblue
3/21/23 7:12pm
I think the BIG12 would have expanded in 2016 if they were able to get BYU and another P5...
Coug
3/21/23 7:13pm
No way Utah could talk the left coasters into BYU
Pro Logic
3/21/23 7:24pm
I believe they could have because the PAC had to add someone and Utah was their pick...
Coug
3/21/23 7:29pm
I like your line of thinking, but BYU was never going to happen. Back when the
TrueBlue67
3/21/23 7:35pm
If BYU is worth $75M, BYU and Bingham High School would have added per team value for the Big 12
krindorr
3/21/23 8:04pm
Why TCU got in before BYU as BYUtv had a big announcement planned that day will
vagabonder
3/21/23 7:13pm
lawyers ruin everything
g$
3/21/23 7:16pm
We didn't dig through the right trash cans to find out.
Pro Logic
3/21/23 7:25pm
Bronco said Sunday play was the issue
robin
3/21/23 11:37pm
They were waiting on BYU to change the design of Cosmo's head.
Mountain Rat
3/21/23 7:16pm
Timing was horrendous for BYU in 2011. The Big 12 wasn’t stable and EVERYTHING
rainorsnow
3/21/23 7:21pm
Where did you read that BYU made $1.5M a game from ESPN. Most indicators say
mudpupper
3/21/23 7:29pm
We weren't exactly in a position of strength. We needed ESPN badly.
zonacougar
3/21/23 7:39pm
Main reasons IMO: 1. Sunday play; 2. Concerns about academic freedom
Japan Coug
3/21/23 7:40pm
I blame WCC refs
ochobeeguy
3/21/23 7:43pm
Take it a step further. Blame the WCC
TNT
3/21/23 7:48pm
ND's current contract with NBC only makes them ~$25m/y
tacallaway
3/21/23 7:47pm
Wasn’t even Notre Dame recently only making as little as $15MM/yr from NBC? Strength in numbers/volume/content.
mulletino
3/21/23 7:47pm
How long ago did TNT say ESPN was using BYU like a lady of the evening?
TNT
3/21/23 7:59pm
Big 12 was a dysfunctional mess (because of Texas, not Bowlsby) and was opposed
BlooCoog
3/21/23 8:28pm
Agree with most of the reasons above, but the reason ESPN wouldn't pay big $$ to
BamaCoug
3/21/23 9:08pm
and being debt free allowed BYU to do it.
qwerew
3/21/23 9:26pm
I think BYU was well aware of the situation and since they didn't need the extra dollars to function profitably imo it
DJROSS
3/21/23 9:20pm
Part of it was knowing we were too big for the MWC and likes of the yewts
Brandoblueblood
3/21/23 10:41pm
You're 2nd comment highlights the precarious situation the PAC now faces
akbarishiwatsu
3/21/23 11:07pm
PAC didn’t screw over BYU in the 90’s, we did it ourselves. Said we wouldn’t go
gp232
3/21/23 11:37pm
That seems to contradict what Fehlberg said
TNT
3/21/23 11:56pm
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