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May 9, 2024
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HoustonCougar
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Is it? When I had a surgery where I knew my deductible would be met, I paid some
before. My out of pocket max was gonna be hit. If you're the hospital system and can collect some of the money ahead of time, why not?
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This article is infuriating. Healthcare system is so bad in this country. It’s
Iman23
May 9, 9:22am
There are dozens of better systems out there. Why don't we try one of them?
DubuMfalme
May 9, 9:27am
What is the better system that could work in the US? I think it’s broken but
SouthernBlueBlood
May 9, 9:34am
Two tier. Public VA type system. True private system
cougfanz
May 9, 9:42am
VA is HORRIBLEx100- seriously. You don’t want that.
SouthernBlueBlood
May 9, 9:53am
It’s not for me. I’ll be doing the private option
cougfanz
May 9, 9:54am
I think most everyone would agree there.
SouthernBlueBlood
May 9, 9:57am
well no one wants it...
NanoFab Coug
May 9, 9:57am
There are countries with 50M+ pop where it works.
DubuMfalme
May 9, 9:56am
Canada- the favorite pretend bastion of healthcare. Telling a Mexican that we
SouthernBlueBlood
May 9, 9:59am
Yeah, let's keep clinging to our failed system as it gets worse and worse.
DubuMfalme
May 9, 10:07am
I don’t think our system is good- but your examples arent really better
SouthernBlueBlood
May 9, 10:08am
They're far cheaper, and their citizens live longer.
DubuMfalme
May 9, 10:11am
Not true- if you compare logically- but if you cherry pick like Roger you’re rig
SouthernBlueBlood
May 9, 10:12am
99% of the ambulances I saw in Brazil were basically Ubers. They weren't staffed
scottfunkel
May 9, 10:02am
After living in Australia for 4 years, I would pass on their system.
Longseason
May 9, 10:10am
Don’t get me started on how crappy canadas healthcare is. For basic care it’s ok
Adwight
May 9, 10:17am
I grew up in Canada. Their system is no bueno. My mom was told last year that
ShinobiCoug
May 9, 10:29am
I hope you aren’t speaking of Japan healthcare from personal observation
NYC and Japan
May 9, 11:56pm
I hear good things about germanys
boctabulous
May 9, 10:40am
US is too big for a one-size fits all solution. Should be state specific.
Doogal McCougar
May 9, 10:49am
How can they possibly know what the cost will be in advance?
RobAdams
May 9, 9:27am
Dont worry, they will send a revised bill 6 months later 😉
Longseason
May 9, 9:35am
This sounds more like a surgical center. They know they’re not chasing insurance
cougfanz
May 9, 9:52am
Lot of new people that need healthcare, someone has to pay for it.
Longseason
May 9, 9:29am
what do you mean by new people that need healthcare?
NanoFab Coug
May 9, 10:02am
What is the infuriating part? That hospitals are requiring to be paid?
Chester Copperpot
May 9, 9:29am
1) The price is a moving target. 2) Patients have to fight the hospital for months to get owed refunds. 3) Patients who
Smack'sWife
May 9, 9:35am
It really can be crazy. Complicated surgeries though can’t be planned
SouthernBlueBlood
May 9, 9:36am
Just because you have insurance doesn't mean you automatically earn the right to
Chester Copperpot
May 9, 10:10am
What’s wrong about that is the cost should be very inexpensive at this point.
SouthernBlueBlood
May 9, 10:14am
Actually it is a supply and demand issue. There are too many fat people in the
Chester Copperpot
May 9, 10:21am
I thought it was tied to supplier tying up the resources and production. I’d
SouthernBlueBlood
May 9, 10:36am
Free markets require clear pricing, unfettered consumer choice, no monopolies/price fixing. We have the opposite of that
Smack'sWife
May 9, 10:38am
First, do no harm. No...wait, first, get paid up front.
Blueto
May 9, 9:30am
These are elective surgeries.
cougfanz
May 9, 9:51am
The surgery in question is medically necessary so the child can breathe, not "elective" like, say, cosmetic surgery.
Smack'sWife
May 9, 10:03am
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Turd Ferguson
May 9, 10:09am
“Medically necessary” is a pretty loose term. They have plenty of time to look
cougfanz
May 9, 10:20am
Is it? When I had a surgery where I knew my deductible would be met, I paid some
HoustonCougar
May 9, 9:30am
I agree it's bad but not really for this reason.
NumbersGuy
May 9, 9:38am
When I was in Nepal, I worked in an ER in Kathmandu and if someone needed an
VACougMD
May 9, 9:39am
It's not the reality in other advanced countries, though.
DubuMfalme
May 9, 9:57am
meh, I had to pay upfront in Australia and sat in the ER for 8 hours
Longseason
May 9, 10:13am
Have you actually experienced healthcare in these other advanced countries?
ShinobiCoug
May 9, 10:30am
I wasn’t comparing. Just commenting on an experience I had with pay up front
VACougMD
May 9, 10:42am
Healthcare system is way down on the list of things correlated to length of life
NYC and Japan
May 9, 12:20pm
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