How did Crowton go 12-2 they year after Lavell went 6-6?

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Nov 20, 2014
5:24:48pm

PolarisPrime

Are you saying Crowton was a better coach?

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PolarisPrime

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All of our best season have one common denominator.

binghammer

11/20/14 11:43am

What about the previous 3 disappointing seasons?

slowhiteguy

11/20/14 11:46am

QB issues, some can be blamed on coaches, some can be blamed on injuries

binghammer

11/20/14 11:49am

I am not disagreeing with this because it has some validity.

slowhiteguy

11/20/14 11:55am

I think we are likely 9-1 right now with healthy Taysom

binghammer

11/20/14 11:57am

The defense got torched by USU and BSU.

slowhiteguy

11/20/14 12:01pm

Some of our best years we had some lousy D's, 2001 is a great example

binghammer

11/20/14 12:03pm

So, you'd say 8-2.

CMuehle

11/20/14 12:05pm

8-2 at best. However, with this schedule that is still not great.

slowhiteguy

11/20/14 12:07pm

You could probably say that about any year we went 8-2

binghammer

11/20/14 12:09pm

Perhaps.

slowhiteguy

11/20/14 12:15pm

Just remember this

binghammer

11/20/14 12:18pm

That is debatable. Crowton was a train wreck.

slowhiteguy

11/20/14 12:21pm

It's not debatable that the one common denominator in his

binghammer

11/20/14 12:24pm

At what point are coaches made responsible for recruiting and player development

slowhiteguy

11/20/14 12:28pm

NEVER!

southernfriedcougar

11/20/14 12:36pm

I personally think coaches are about 25% of the equation overall

binghammer

11/20/14 12:36pm

They sure get paid a lot for being 25% of the equation.

southernfriedcougar

11/20/14 12:43pm

I want that job... my goodness

Smoke Monster

11/20/14 12:49pm

I think we needed a new coach and he was asked to resign at a good point

binghammer

11/20/14 1:04pm

Like I said, it's not an exact science or anything

binghammer

11/20/14 1:02pm

I highly doubt coaching is only 25% of the equation at Miss State.

southernfriedcougar

11/20/14 1:36pm

How many other teams are like that? If that is the norm, you have a good point

binghammer

11/20/14 1:40pm

Look at Lavell's season if you need proof

Smoke Monster

11/20/14 1:43pm

Yeah, what Lavell did is super common, same with TCU

binghammer

11/20/14 1:48pm

Curious... what's normal in your point of view?

Smoke Monster

11/20/14 1:56pm

there's 130 teams or something, the average of that is normal

binghammer

11/20/14 1:57pm

Seriously Clark? For the record, Bronco wants to be apart of the 65 teams...

Smoke Monster

11/20/14 2:10pm

That is the upper half, so if you want to draw from that part of the equation

binghammer

11/20/14 2:21pm

Yeah... good programs lose to USU, SJSU, UNR... have a poor record against Utah.

Smoke Monster

11/20/14 2:26pm

I wonder if UT and OU say that about BYU? Probably

binghammer

11/20/14 2:31pm

You really think there are no examples of teams obviously coached

southernfriedcougar

11/20/14 2:01pm

lol, go re-read what I said and we will take it from there

binghammer

11/20/14 2:05pm

Not doing yourself any favors here.

southernfriedcougar

11/20/14 2:14pm

It's not my fault you don't read very well, I can't hold your hand here

binghammer

11/20/14 2:22pm

Make an argument or just stop.

southernfriedcougar

11/20/14 2:51pm

We cannot progress until you learn how to read

binghammer

11/20/14 3:34pm

We cannot progress until you present a real argument.

southernfriedcougar

11/20/14 3:46pm

Explain.

Jeffe

11/20/14 2:53pm

How did Crowton go 12-2 they year after Lavell went 6-6?

PolarisPrime

11/20/14 5:24pm

RE: How did Crowton go 12-2 they year after Lavell went 6-6?

Jeffe

11/20/14 9:00pm

If this rational had been followed after 10 years of Lavell

PolarisPrime

11/20/14 9:13pm

RE: If this rational had been followed after 10 years of Lavell

Jeffe

11/21/14 10:40am

Two things

PolarisPrime

11/21/14 10:52am

They sure get paid a lot for being 25%.

BYUisLife

11/21/14 8:24am

What what what? wait... hold on

Smoke Monster

11/20/14 12:51pm

I'd say 8-2 at worst.

CMuehle

11/20/14 12:12pm

wait, you really think we would have lost to USU with healthy Taysom?

brooklyncougar

11/20/14 3:12pm

I'll have what you're smoking--see Marshall

GA_Coug

11/20/14 4:04pm

you don't think we would be ranked higher than marshall? i absolutely do

brooklyncougar

11/20/14 10:11pm

Considering they have a stronger SOS--absolutely not

GA_Coug

11/20/14 10:13pm

And our offense had over 1200 yards in those two games, so it's not like

southernfriedcougar

11/20/14 12:33pm

BM 2001

binghammer

11/20/14 12:38pm

Taysom was torching their defense more than they were torching ours.

cougarick

11/20/14 1:02pm

Honestly, Taysom was not a great QB last year as a whole. Especially passing

viper

11/20/14 12:02pm

He took a huge step forward this year and now will likely take a huge step back.

GA_Coug

11/20/14 12:30pm

Hill was an average QB last year.

CMuehle

11/20/14 12:02pm

Just out of curiosity....

CMuehle

11/20/14 12:07pm

I am not as much of a BB fan as I am football, so I don't really have an opinion

slowhiteguy

11/20/14 12:15pm

Rose hasn't taken us to the highest level in terms of single season success.

Blue Cat

11/20/14 12:43pm

Good distinction

slowhiteguy

11/20/14 1:10pm

Yup, and we would have went farther in the 2011 NCAA tourney if that

BeardedSpock

11/20/14 1:26pm

I agree

GA_Coug

11/20/14 12:23pm

Bryan Kehl is no idiot.

byusage

11/20/14 12:26pm

Please don't bring up his silly comments.

southernfriedcougar

11/20/14 12:34pm

Bryan proved that to be false with his lame blog post.

BYUisLife

11/21/14 8:25am

So when did Hill play defense?

Smoke Monster

11/20/14 12:48pm

When did Doman, Beck, Hall, Sark, Bosco, Detmer, Young, McMahon, Wilson,

binghammer

11/20/14 1:06pm

They didn't have to... because they didn't have a 3A high school coach...

Smoke Monster

11/20/14 2:01pm

Didn't know you thought so highly of Crowton, nice

binghammer

11/20/14 2:06pm

Did Crowton hire a really bad 3A High school coach with no college experience...

Smoke Monster

11/20/14 2:16pm

When did Crowton hire high school coaches to be the head coach at BYU?

binghammer

11/20/14 2:22pm

When did he hire high school coaches to be coordinators?

Smoke Monster

11/20/14 2:28pm

Don't know don't care, but much good it did him

binghammer

11/20/14 2:32pm

Crowton is a mess...

Smoke Monster

11/20/14 2:46pm

TLDR

binghammer

11/20/14 3:34pm

Tucked tail and ran...

Smoke Monster

11/20/14 3:36pm

That is about all the Pro-Bronco crowd is good for.

BYUisLife

11/21/14 8:26am

I agree with your conclusion, but . . .

CoopDizz

11/20/14 1:18pm

Correct.

ragid

11/20/14 1:28pm

I wouldn't be disappointed with being 9-1 or even 8-2 right now

binghammer

11/20/14 1:28pm

If Taysom was healthy I would be disappointed with anything other than 10-0

ragid

11/20/14 1:33pm

I think we could be 10-0 right now, possibly, but we will never know

binghammer

11/20/14 1:41pm

Effect != Cause

BluebloodOR

11/20/14 1:31pm

Our defense was the problem this year. In our losses, our offense scored enough

Real Men Wear Blue

11/20/14 2:40pm

No argument from me that a better d would have given better results

binghammer

11/20/14 3:36pm

Since 2000, no undefeated team has had a quarterback injury

CocaColaRecovery

11/20/14 3:09pm

That is very telling.

PolarisPrime

11/20/14 5:27pm

Proves my point perfectly, thanks

binghammer

11/29/14 11:37pm

Wow - you are really slow at responding to posts

PolarisPrime

11/30/14 12:20am

My grandma died, so I have been out of town

binghammer

11/30/14 12:37am

Ugh... Sorry about that

PolarisPrime

11/30/14 12:41am

It's bittersweet. It was expected. She was in a lot of pain.

binghammer

11/30/14 12:45am

Well... Welcome back.

PolarisPrime

11/30/14 12:47am

Yeah, that was crystal clear the past 11 days or so.

binghammer

11/30/14 12:53am

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