The funny thing is - as you implied - This shows Bronco is a great coach

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Dec 18, 2014
12:27:14pm

PolarisPrime

The funny thing is - as you implied - This shows Bronco is a great coach

He has managed to maintain a winning program despite "inferior" talent. The argument is not a bash on Bronco, it is a bash on the players. If we were like UConn where several players have gone to the NFL yet we had such a crappy record then the OP would have a point.

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Bronco has had 1 recruit be drafted into the NFL

checoug

12/18/14 9:08am

The NFL draft doesn't matter for college football success

Byu4life

12/18/14 9:10am

Signed, Nick Saban

BYUlv

12/18/14 11:29am

They are a bunch of Slow White Mormons...Hats off to Bronco

AzCoug1

12/18/14 12:23pm

Yeah, look at your local ward's YM/primary kids and tell me how many have

Ulysses14

12/18/14 2:47pm

Wow that is amazing. He really got somebody in the NFL? Considering football

capo

12/20/14 1:46pm

I don't care about the draft as long as BYU wins on the field

Mathlete

12/18/14 9:11am

do us a favor, this topic is tired

Snorky

12/18/14 9:11am

Can't you say that about 98% of CB?

checoug

12/18/14 9:12am

Not really.

Zach

12/18/14 9:13am

Yeah because that pro/anti Bronco argument

checoug

12/18/14 9:24am

Ok.

Zach

12/18/14 9:29am

nice. Thumbs up

yfootball

12/18/14 11:40am

It's a symptom of what is wrong with the program

AxelDC

12/18/14 11:57am

It's a big problem. HS stars think they going to be NFL players one day.

Blueto

12/18/14 9:15am

Wow, serious? such little amount of NFL talent, and he has top 25 teams

capo

12/18/14 9:16am

Top 25 teams every year?

checoug

12/18/14 9:17am

when was his last top 25? You must be trolling.

bulletproof

12/18/14 9:17am

I thought that was one of his claims to fame.Hasn't he had a few

capo

12/18/14 9:24am

i think that there were top 25's but it happened in his early

bulletproof

12/18/14 10:13am

You mean like 2011?

12/18/14 12:19pm

I dont see them ranked in 2011 but I might be looking at a different

bulletproof

12/18/14 1:20pm

They were top 25 in the coaches poll

12/18/14 1:27pm

Another thing - If BYU soundly beats Memphis

12/18/14 1:31pm

You cant throw in 'if's'. If Bronco was Urban Meyer

bulletproof

12/18/14 1:44pm

Of course you can throw in "ifs"

12/18/14 2:05pm

A few months ago . . .

viper

12/18/14 11:04am

Lol, I guess I dont regard the beginning of the year as highly as you.

bulletproof

12/18/14 1:16pm

All teams follow two types of trends in the rankings

12/18/14 1:40pm

Ok, great 1/3 of the season! We should have stopped.

bulletproof

12/18/14 1:46pm

5, 10 years from now no one will care about the record of the first 4 games

checoug

12/18/14 1:48pm

Then why did all the media outlets in the country

12/18/14 2:07pm

I wish we could have.

12/18/14 2:07pm

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viper

12/18/14 9:34am

he has de-emphasized the NFL and has recruited a bunch of missionaries.

12/18/14 9:17am

how sad is it that we've fallen below USU as a program...

kotacoug

12/18/14 9:24am

Did you not know the average nfl career is 3 years? and in 10 years most

capo

12/18/14 9:26am

yeah i wonder if bronco advised ziggy to go into accounting

12/18/14 9:30am

I am not joking at all, I think Ziggy would be good at the office, I

capo

12/18/14 3:39pm

LOL - Haven't seen that in years.

12/18/14 3:57pm

We are a school that is 99% white with players who typically have a lot more

boorad

12/18/14 9:20am

Lavell had lots of draftees, Crowton has had way more than Bronco

checoug

12/18/14 9:23am

LaVell also had half of the players go on missions that Bronco does and

ManicBlue

12/18/14 9:49am

This. They have different focuses

boorad

12/18/14 10:06am

Except that BYU used to so there goes your excuse.

southernfriedcougar

1/14/15 12:15pm

I love the mental gymnastics involved to slight Bronco.

mulletino

12/18/14 9:24am

Ziggy fell into Bronco's lap

checoug

12/18/14 9:27am

And if Leslie gets drafted, we can discount him too since Bronco did not

viper

12/18/14 9:37am

First of all, Leslie is not getting drafted

checoug

12/18/14 9:39am

The semantics you are desperately clinging onto to prove your point are pathetic

Jericho

12/18/14 11:00am

Did Bronco recruit Ziggy to play football?

checoug

12/18/14 11:19am

Is recruiting any worse than it ever has been traditionally at BYU?

Jericho

12/18/14 11:56am

Yes.

12/18/14 12:22pm

speaking of mental gymnastics..Please provide evidence of Bronco's recruiting...

icecougar

12/18/14 1:59pm

???

12/18/14 2:09pm

even when you add those guys... only one guy is playing significant minutes

kotacoug

12/18/14 9:27am

I'm not arguing that. My argument is that the lengths he went to

mulletino

12/18/14 9:30am

He doesn't get credit for turning Ziggy into a top draft pick

boorad

12/18/14 10:07am

He can't win with some fans

Jericho

12/18/14 11:15am

It is a huge problem.

idacoug

12/18/14 9:24am

Several reasons.

Blue Cat

12/18/14 9:26am

you have a point, but outright lying in your post doesn't help your cause

byujag

12/18/14 9:26am

RE: you have a point, but outright lying in your post doesn't help your cause

checoug

12/18/14 9:28am

that's my point, your post title says one, then the body admits a 2nd, and Ziggy

byujag

12/18/14 9:31am

I think you are incorrect. Recruiting means you seek someone out and bring them

ArcticKat

12/18/14 9:55am

Did Bronco recruit KVN?

mulletino

12/18/14 9:31am

That was the recruit I was counting

checoug

12/18/14 9:34am

its not a lie. bronco has one recruit that is in the NFL. that's true.

12/18/14 9:32am

Unga was in his first signing class

Blue Cat

12/18/14 9:34am

my mistake. but he didn't stick.

12/18/14 9:34am

true, but still took a draft spot

byujag

12/18/14 9:38am

didn't Unga enroll in 2006? that's after Bronco became head coach

byujag

12/18/14 9:37am

Cause 2 is a significantly more impressive number than 1.

12/18/14 9:39am

no. identifying a kid in hs, recruiting him to your school, and putting him in

12/18/14 9:40am

he was part of the 2005 recruiting class but grey shirted a year...

icecougar

12/18/14 2:04pm

First, he eliminates any other players who made it to the NFL even if Bronco was

Jericho

12/18/14 11:14am

The funny thing is - as you implied - This shows Bronco is a great coach

12/18/14 12:27pm

I was very clear and not deceptive

checoug

12/18/14 1:26pm

Why do you feel the need to twist things? Is it just because you want to prove

Jericho

12/18/14 1:55pm

Let's see. What other tired old subject can we drag out?

WaybackCougar

12/18/14 9:38am

This dead horse is tired of being kicked.

bald man

12/18/14 9:39am

All of BYU football threads are repetitive

checoug

12/18/14 9:41am

Really? I can't imagine why.

bald man

12/18/14 9:43am

Anything that's dead can't be tired of anything

Harrison0Yfan

12/18/14 2:20pm

I'm not even sure why I'm defending Bronco in this thread

byujag

12/18/14 9:40am

I don't care one bit about that, all I care about are W's

Jericho

12/18/14 10:57am

Whether you are a Bronco-homer or critical of him, player development is a major

CougDogg-e-Dogg

12/18/14 12:03pm

It is?

12/18/14 12:28pm

Your timeline is wrong. It's 2 in 6 or 7 years, not 9.

ChurroNieves

12/18/14 12:05pm

It's interesting reading the criticisms of Bronco.

Josef K

12/18/14 12:20pm

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BYUinNYC

12/18/14 1:00pm

First - BYU does not expect a non LDS kid to abstain from beer

12/18/14 1:36pm

Ehhhh...the honor code requires one to abstain from alcoholic beverages.

Josef K

12/18/14 2:21pm

Well, I guess it would be more realistic to say

12/18/14 3:32pm

is that you Bean Mace?

icecougar

12/18/14 2:00pm

They didn't have the Honor Code under Edwards?

AxelDC

12/18/14 2:57pm

After the early/mid '80s Edwards was about as successful as Bronco has been

Ulysses14

12/18/14 3:08pm

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