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May 7, 2015
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Josef K
Actually, most baseball analytic websites are Bonds apologists.
I'm only reciting what the most respected baseball analytics sources are already saying.
I've already cited Fangraphs. Here's an article from Hardball Times.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/in-defense-of-barry-bonds/
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POLL: The greatest living baseball player in MLB History is:
YardTime
5/6/15 11:02pm
Looks like Hank Aaron has lost a step.
garyfan
5/6/15 11:06pm
Nolan Ryan trumps Hendersen
jxncoog
5/6/15 11:09pm
RE: Nolan Ryan trumps Hendersen
YardTime
5/6/15 11:21pm
fwiw: I voted for Hank
jxncoog
5/6/15 11:34pm
All time records in walks, runs, and stolen bases
Josef K
5/7/15 12:35am
They both set records that will never be broken
KingDave
5/6/15 11:24pm
I don't think there has ever been a better lead off hitter
donnerstag
5/7/15 11:31am
Mays and Aaron are very close statistically speaking.
MantiCoug
5/6/15 11:09pm
Luis Gonzalez
nashty
5/6/15 11:10pm
Omar Vizquel
BlueFrog
5/6/15 11:24pm
Pedro Martinez?
blucoug18
5/6/15 11:24pm
I give the edge to Willie Mays over Hank based on defense
PING Man
5/6/15 11:25pm
I hadn't thought of this, this changes my vote
WhiteKnight
5/7/15 6:10am
And stolen bases.
mncougar
5/7/15 7:36am
Legends never die
billyrust
5/6/15 11:27pm
It has to be Willie Mays
donnerstag
5/6/15 11:46pm
Ozzie Smith
TonyStark
5/6/15 11:50pm
Charlie Hustle
BW84
5/7/15 12:16am
Barry, Willie, Hank, Roger, Alex, Rickey, Tom Seaver, Frank Robinson, Maddux,
Josef K
5/7/15 12:34am
Barry doesn't belong on the list
kimdaddy35
5/7/15 12:45am
Most used drugs of some kind or another.
Josef K
5/7/15 1:03am
LOL at your explanation
kimdaddy35
5/7/15 1:24am
Your pics show it all.
Josef K
5/7/15 9:08am
Of the 90's? Nah. He was a great player, but
Cochise Cat
5/7/15 1:39am
Bonds won three MVP awards in the 90s. Griffey won 1. Griffey hit for more power
SPORTS
5/7/15 7:22am
Also --Bonds stole a lot more bases. Griffey's best base stealing year would've
SPORTS
5/7/15 7:28am
Bonds had a higher WAR, higher OPS, more SB's, more runs, same avg, higher slg.
Josef K
5/7/15 9:01am
And he kills him in OBP, walks, strikeouts, and stolen bases. Griffey was a
SPORTS
5/7/15 9:24am
Griffey was a better fielder, had the same BA, and hit more HR's.
Cochise Cat
5/7/15 10:10am
Bonds' WAR for the nineties was the second highest for any decade since the 30's
Josef K
5/7/15 10:11am
Pre-steroids Bonds was the best MLB player since Mays. He was amazing. He hit
SPORTS
5/7/15 6:52am
The debate is between Aaron, Bonds or Mays
Busiturtle
5/7/15 6:32am
This.
SPORTS
5/7/15 6:52am
Bonds isn't in the discussion
blucoug18
5/7/15 8:39am
Pre-steroids he won 3 MVP awards and was the best player in baseball.
SPORTS
5/7/15 9:27am
We didn't make him take steroids.
SoCalCoug
5/7/15 9:56am
If we're honest, the pre-steroids Bonds was having a fantastic career
donnerstag
5/7/15 10:17am
probably inflated? Like hitting 73 HR at age 36?
blucoug18
5/7/15 10:21am
You missed the "in a dramatic way" part of my statement
donnerstag
5/7/15 10:32am
Exactly. His career BA would probably be in the high .280's or low .290's,
Cochise Cat
5/7/15 10:32am
You anti bonds folks are nuts.
Josef K
5/7/15 10:49am
Bonds began using after the 1998 season
kimdaddy35
5/7/15 11:07am
With a normal decline as he aged, he wouldn't have cracked 600.
Cochise Cat
5/7/15 11:24am
Okay so he was three months short of 35.
Josef K
5/7/15 11:31am
RE: Okay so he was three months short of 35.
kimdaddy35
5/7/15 11:35am
As in 9 months? LOL
kimdaddy35
5/7/15 11:37am
Huh? You said he started using after the 1998 season.
Josef K
5/7/15 11:57am
Why don't you understand? He was 34 when he started using
kimdaddy35
5/7/15 5:16pm
He turned 34 during the 1998 season. You said he started using after the 1998
Josef K
5/7/15 5:57pm
Welp, if nothing else, this thread has taught me that sasquatch lives, the
Cochise Cat
5/7/15 8:01pm
Actually, most baseball analytic websites are Bonds apologists.
Josef K
5/7/15 10:10pm
Most of his contemporaries weren't taking steroids their whole careers
donnerstag
5/7/15 11:16am
You think that if he had cheated his whole career, instead of only part of it,
Cochise Cat
5/7/15 11:22am
did I not just say that? We are talking greatest living player
blucoug18
5/7/15 10:19am
Maybe it should be G.O.A.T.S.E.
SoCalCoug
5/7/15 10:03am
I'd go with Mays. Hank's offensive numbers are a little better, but Willie Mays
SPORTS
5/7/15 7:08am
You have to take his post-steroids numbers with a grain of salt
donnerstag
5/7/15 10:41am
RE: POLL: The greatest living baseball player in MLB History is:
Heinz57
5/7/15 8:56am
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