The requirement for STOVL by the marines screwed with the overall design from

Jul 2, 2015
12:58:53am

Jericho

day 1. Even without that specific capability, the USAF and USN variants have suffered as a result of the engineering compromises that needed to be made to create the STOVL variant.

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To any AirForce or military guys w/ an opinion or knowledge re:the F-35 and it's

MatthiasG

7/1/15 4:35pm

the response from the military was interesting....they're saying that its not

johnnycarson

7/1/15 4:44pm

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Mickey

7/1/15 4:47pm

It is intended for stand-off range combat

2FarGone

7/1/15 4:50pm

yeah so the pilot comments about dogfighting are sorta dumb.

johnnycarson

7/1/15 4:52pm

yeah,"that it didn't have the stealth coating, latest software, was early versio

MatthiasG

7/1/15 4:58pm

Got a really belly laugh outta your gif.We've got bigfooters somewhere in fam.

MatthiasG

7/1/15 5:01pm

The F-22 is the best plane ever made, we should have made more instead of

Jericho

7/1/15 4:44pm

Doesn't the F-22 have to spend lots of time in the shop for repairs in between

So it goes...

7/1/15 4:49pm

No.

2FarGone

7/1/15 4:51pm

Even w/ all the F-22 problems, and groundings due to O2 problems recently,

MatthiasG

7/1/15 5:11pm

The VSTOL Marine version was a small show versus the AF and Navy buys.

MoonPie

7/1/15 7:02pm

The requirement for STOVL by the marines screwed with the overall design from

Jericho

7/2/15 12:58am

I'm pretty new to the game, but it seems to me they could just upgrade the

db59840

7/1/15 4:44pm

That said, I agree with Jericho that we should have kept the F-22 going. I guess

db59840

7/1/15 4:46pm

I heard that the F-35's stealth capability was downgraded for cost controll...

So it goes...

7/1/15 4:51pm

They have upgraded the F-18 and F-16 many, many times

2FarGone

7/1/15 4:53pm

Not only have they been upgraded in the past, these airframes continously get

cougarfan84

7/1/15 5:09pm

Yeah, the Super Hornet vs. F14 is a huge reduction in maintenance costs, can't

MatthiasG

7/1/15 5:15pm

The only REAL missile company is Ratheon in Tucson. Our government felt

MoonPie

7/1/15 7:05pm

We're on the same page, I've been wondering the same things...

So it goes...

7/1/15 4:47pm

I have heard a former CSAF say

2FarGone

7/1/15 4:49pm

"...may have to re-open the F-22 production lines..." We can only hope.

OldCosmo

7/1/15 4:52pm

There is a reason they ordered that all the tooling be preserved....

Taullis

7/1/15 6:29pm

Sucks when all the big R&D costs are already spent, production lines running and

MatthiasG

7/1/15 5:34pm

Sat and talked with the Wing Commander at Tindle a couple years ago. He was a 15

Six Foot Seven

7/1/15 5:08pm

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Mall Santa

7/1/15 5:08pm

It's amazing what happens when you combine the 22's stealth and kinematics

db59840

7/1/15 5:33pm

Yep. He stated we could park 8 22s in Asia and China still wouldn't have a

Six Foot Seven

7/1/15 6:29pm

Those are big limitations, and he missed one

krewus

7/1/15 9:51pm

Thx. Thats why the F-16 close dogfight could be totally irrelevant w/ 35.

MatthiasG

7/1/15 5:38pm

I use to be stationed at Tyndall AFB, who was the wing commander to whom you

mflood

7/2/15 6:27am

I was just on a "distinguished educator visit" and met so many officers on that

Six Foot Seven

7/2/15 9:05am

There are a bunch of great comments on reddit. Here are a couple:

Non-donor troll

7/1/15 6:07pm

Lots of interesting opinions here. There have certainly been issues with

MoonPie

7/1/15 7:00pm

Are the F-22 and 35 the last two manned fighters we'll ever make?

MatthiasG

7/1/15 7:06pm

Remember, in the air there are only fighters and targets.

MoonPie

7/1/15 7:06pm

Just came across this article, It starts off with a look at the F35...

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