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Help me understand why multiple losses to P5s is better than
TheLoneCougar
9/21/17 2:20pm
Without looking who won the sunbelt last year? C USA? See no one cares
monkeycowboy
9/21/17 2:21pm
now see if they can name the MWC and AAC
Nat Gas Man
9/21/17 2:24pm
nope nobody cares, G5 is the new FCS
Nat Gas Man
9/21/17 2:25pm
And who cares about BYU right now, or since Indy?
TheLoneCougar
9/21/17 2:36pm
If we were 4-0 all of cfb would care right now.
CarolinaCoug
9/21/17 2:54pm
But..we're not.and they don't.
JarJarBeeps
9/21/17 5:14pm
Every year. Ugh.
SaintGeorgeYFan
9/21/17 5:52pm
2019 is a 0-4 start, indy is great!
blackshirts
9/21/17 6:46pm
How can a guy with the board name "blackshirts" want to play a schedule of
SolidBlue
9/21/17 8:54pm
If UMASS won every game...
blackshirts
9/21/17 6:47pm
No non-BYU fan could tell you what our record has been for 6 years, either.
Junior Deputy
9/21/17 4:01pm
Im gonna guess Houston or Navy and then Boise probably for MWC
monkeycowboy
9/21/17 2:26pm
Houston and SDSU
Nat Gas Man
9/21/17 2:28pm
*Temple
TheLoneCougar
9/21/17 2:34pm
SDSU and Temple. No I didn't look that up.
TheLoneCougar
9/21/17 2:33pm
If you are looking to kill the program theres not many quicker ways than going G5. Not only will our payout be smaller
monkeycowboy
9/21/17 2:38pm
how about not being ranked since going independent, where other G5's
franklyvulgar
9/21/17 2:45pm
But that doesn't hold water.
TheLoneCougar
9/21/17 2:56pm
I can think of fans right now who would jump ship for Utah if BYU went G5. You are right winning is important but who
monkeycowboy
9/21/17 3:03pm
I can see a lot of fans who are jumping ship right now because of the all the
JarJarBeeps
9/21/17 5:17pm
Clearly not true fans then. And how many are already jumping ship because we
TheLoneCougar
9/22/17 10:36am
To add to that. This team this year would be fighting for third to sixth in MWC
NachoCougar
9/21/17 2:57pm
We aren't talking about one isolated year.
TheLoneCougar
9/22/17 12:55pm
We say that every year in the WCC
NachoCougar
9/22/17 2:31pm
I disagree. We may have been outsiders, but we were regularly in the top 25
IronPotato
9/21/17 7:58pm
BYU wouldn't be playing in the Sun Belt or C-USA. Poor response.
TheLoneCougar
9/21/17 2:30pm
Whats the difference?
monkeycowboy
9/21/17 2:32pm
The MWC and ACC go to NY6 bowls and end the season ranked.
SaintGeorgeYFan
9/21/17 5:55pm
Because it's a false dichotomy. This isn't the choice before us.
chilango
9/21/17 2:21pm
Obviously. More of a question for fans who prefer one over the other.
TheLoneCougar
9/21/17 2:34pm
I'd rather watch BYU play a good team (and sometimes lose) than watch them
8-track
9/21/17 2:36pm
Sometimes?
byupacker
9/21/17 2:36pm
Sure. I'd rather lose most of the time if it means playing real teams.
8-track
9/21/17 2:37pm
I agree. Quality of opponents is more important than winning.
Cooler4
9/21/17 2:41pm
I was at the wisconsin game, the attendance there tell me a lot disagree
franklyvulgar
9/21/17 2:53pm
I wonder if Vanderbilt feels the same way.
kolob32
9/21/17 2:56pm
If vanderbilt wanted to win right now they could easily join the sun belt. They dont because they are smart and know
monkeycowboy
9/21/17 3:05pm
As a fan I would take Boise State in MWC over Vanderbilt in SEC any day
kolob32
9/21/17 3:26pm
You would rather be forever locked out of the big boys club than get millions with the shot for greatness
monkeycowboy
9/21/17 3:36pm
Locked out of the big boys club? I'm happy to bash BSU as much as the next guy
JarJarBeeps
9/21/17 5:22pm
Exactly how I see it, bsu is viewed as P5 more than vanderbilt
kolob32
9/21/17 5:41pm
They will never, I repeat never have the chance to play for a title. Vanderbilt has that option
monkeycowboy
9/21/17 6:04pm
I'm sure that thought gives vanderbilt fans comfort.
kolob32
9/21/17 6:19pm
Wow, TIC?
TheLoneCougar
9/21/17 2:57pm
I think this would be better phrased: I'd rather watch BYU play a good team
TheLoneCougar
9/21/17 2:38pm
The games are more fun to watch. Having the possibility (however remote) of
8-track
9/21/17 2:43pm
^^This^^ 100% agree.
Cooler4
9/21/17 2:46pm
For individual games, I agree with you. But not for a season.
TheLoneCougar
9/21/17 3:00pm
Agree 100%. I'm an out-of-state season ticket holder and also go to the
vaquero
9/21/17 5:41pm
We absolutely do have the means to compete. It's amazing what a bit of losing does to some of y'all's spines.
CalGTR
9/21/17 3:01pm
I think it helps more in recruiting than in the eyes of fans
SUAVO
9/21/17 2:43pm
sure hasn't helped our recruiting so far, this isn't the first year as Indy
franklyvulgar
9/21/17 2:47pm
When we were in a conference, we wanted to play bigger teams more often. We wanted a shot at the big guys.
CalGTR
9/21/17 2:49pm
I don't disagree with you. However, it is hard to do this when the school
TheLoneCougar
9/21/17 3:07pm
We're getting murdered in the WCC.. G5 may be our undoing...
NachoCougar
9/21/17 2:54pm
Who cares about a G5 conference championship? No one
Mr. Belding
9/21/17 3:01pm
Everyone who won a championship last year, and everyone in those conferences.
TheLoneCougar
9/21/17 3:08pm
It’s like the NIT. No one cares.
Mr. Belding
9/21/17 3:13pm
Who is no one? National media pays their respects, coaches and players want it
TheLoneCougar
9/22/17 7:44am
What's the point of a G5 championship?
Freddie Cougar
9/21/17 3:10pm
What is the point of any championship in any sport?
Junior Deputy
9/21/17 4:03pm
What’s the point of anything?
Mr. Belding
9/21/17 4:04pm
Where am I? What happened to my pants?
Junior Deputy
9/21/17 4:12pm
There's no value in winning a championship in an irrelevant conference
Freddie Cougar
9/22/17 6:47am
Your logic is stunning. Every BYU championship in any sport since the beginning
Junior Deputy
9/22/17 6:53am
Guess what we have a strong label on par with the P5. We shouldnt throw it away. Like any p5 program we are in a positio
monkeycowboy
9/22/17 7:38am
For every passing reference to us as a P5-caliber school, there is a passing
Junior Deputy
9/22/17 7:44am
G5 is becoming less and less relevant with each passing season. Lets take our history and build on it. Your plan would
monkeycowboy
9/22/17 7:49am
ESPN called us G5 last week re: the Wisconsin game. Look it up.
Junior Deputy
9/22/17 10:15am
So struggle in mediocrity for some off the wall chance we end up making it to
TheLoneCougar
9/22/17 7:48am
Lots of football teams struggle. Every year only a handful get to play in meaningful bowl games. Everyone is playing for
monkeycowboy
9/22/17 7:54am
That just doesn't hold weight.
TheLoneCougar
9/22/17 8:07am
Mediocrity is too harsh a word for a team that wins 8 or 9 games a season
Freddie Cougar
9/22/17 9:21am
That is the definition of mediocrity. 8-9 wins a season with no Top 25 ranking.
TheLoneCougar
9/22/17 9:29am
No, mediocre would be going 6-6 against middle of the road teams.
Freddie Cougar
9/22/17 9:35am
There really isn't much of difference between 6-6 and 8-4...
TheLoneCougar
9/22/17 9:51am
The world changes. The current system has rendered football outside of the P5
Freddie Cougar
9/22/17 8:48am
When has football outside the P5/BCS/Bowl Alliance ever been relevant?
Junior Deputy
9/22/17 10:46am
I don't even think the NY6 are relevant any more
Nat Gas Man
9/22/17 11:57am
There's some truth to that.
Freddie Cougar
9/22/17 2:10pm
Well I guess we should discount any championship we have every won in any
TheLoneCougar
9/22/17 7:46am
What have those conference championships gotten us since? BYU winning a Natty helped create the system wherein the Power
monkeycowboy
9/22/17 7:50am
They have gotten us ranked in the Top 25, media support, and exposure.
TheLoneCougar
9/22/17 8:10am
Utah and TCU had far less of these special conference championships. I dont think its the reason they were taken and
monkeycowboy
9/22/17 8:13am
I'm not necessarily comparing this to why BYU wasn't taken.
TheLoneCougar
9/22/17 8:25am
Why wasnt boise taken? They have been to more NY6 games than any other G5. Its because of other circumstances.
monkeycowboy
9/22/17 8:34am
BSU wasn't taken because they don't academically fit and are in Idaho
TheLoneCougar
9/22/17 8:45am
One thing to keep in mind is that the gulf between the haves and have nots is wider than when TCU and Utah were taken
monkeycowboy
9/22/17 8:51am
Fair point.
TheLoneCougar
9/22/17 9:01am
If we beat Utah this year this board would look totally different
GhostofPostersPast
9/21/17 3:12pm
A lot of flipper IF's on this board.
blackshirts
9/21/17 6:53pm
The question should be
teancum
9/21/17 4:31pm
Let's go Big Sky and win conference championships and national championships!
GilbertAZCougar
9/21/17 5:04pm
We can clobber G5s this year and who cares
Coogar2
9/21/17 6:45pm
We make more money this way. Period. Does that help you understand?
kiyoshige
9/21/17 6:57pm
Wow, clearly. What has that money done for us?!
TheLoneCougar
9/22/17 7:50am
However bad you think our current coaches facilities and all else you mention
kiyoshige
9/22/17 11:44pm
We would be the exact same is my point. The facilities that we do have
TheLoneCougar
9/23/17 7:55am
What about other sports? Also our athletics program
kiyoshige
9/23/17 10:13pm
it'd be pretty awesome if we could play our schedule in reverse order
Hill4Heisman
9/21/17 7:08pm
Some of us want to be the best. Being the prettiest girl at an ugly girl party isn't the satisfaction I want..
HarlemCoug
9/21/17 7:58pm
Perfect comparison. 👍👍👍
SolidBlue
9/22/17 9:11am
So who cares about winning, or going out with best looking person. Just want
TheLoneCougar
9/22/17 9:17am
I don't think our record would be much better in the MWC this year
RobDog
9/21/17 8:52pm
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