They flat out lied to us with the creation of CSTV/the Mtn. They refused to

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Mar 12, 2018
9:58:35pm

gwalker All-American

They flat out lied to us with the creation of CSTV/the Mtn. They refused to

live up to what they hadc agreed to. And they refused to do anything to let us have third tier broadcast rights (preferring to have games go unbroadcast as opposed to letting us show games). Then when we left, they let BSU cut a separate deal for their football games.

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When was the last time we acted proactively instead of reactionary? Why are

Cougarfan777

3/12/18 9:16pm

Never....probably could have gotten out of the WAC / MWC for a better

Dangerous

3/12/18 9:18pm

Your AD at the time has specifically said this isn’t true.

displacedute

3/12/18 11:28pm

RE: Your AD at the time has specifically said this isn’t true.

displacedute

3/13/18 11:13am

"Let's leave the WAC together and help form the MWC" has turned into

cav73

3/13/18 7:41am

Amen and amen. But we have a plan.

indojoe

3/12/18 9:19pm

When BYU left the WAC and founded the MWC.

DapperDan

3/12/18 9:21pm

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East1999

3/12/18 9:32pm

Yep, sadly this is the last time

Kerbouchard

3/12/18 9:56pm

1999 when the MWC was created.

Everyman

3/12/18 9:22pm

Uh, when we went independent?

darkcoug

3/12/18 9:22pm

The year after Utah left? Truly proactive.

Cougarfan777

3/12/18 9:24pm

The same year.

gwalker

3/12/18 9:35pm

It was the same year and it would have been a dumb move to do it before then

darkcoug

3/12/18 9:42pm

And had been in the works for years

molodyets

3/12/18 9:54pm

That was reactionary. Did it occur before or after Utah left the MWC?

3/12/18 9:24pm

No it wasn’t, BYUtv was already built. It had already been in the works before.

BYUButters

3/13/18 12:59am

Would we have gone independent if utah and TCU stayed in the MWC?

BYUheaven

3/12/18 9:24pm

No way

thebruce

3/12/18 9:51pm

Such a proactive visionary move(tic), basically the death of byu football

kolob32

3/12/18 10:27pm

The creation of the MWC was proactive. The move to independence was proactive

Indy Coug

3/12/18 9:24pm

No. It was reactive to Utah leaving. No reason to bury our head in sand

Hoax

3/12/18 9:25pm

BYU had been planning independence for years

Indy Coug

3/12/18 9:26pm

Utah leaving may have been the catalyst, but it was planned previous to Utah lea

SUAVO

3/12/18 9:27pm

The only reason it wasn't done sooner was because of Utah. And Dr. Hill,

Q-grr

3/12/18 10:18pm

RE: BYU had been planning independence for years

Cougarfan777

3/12/18 9:28pm

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East1999

3/12/18 9:30pm

Cmon just think for a second

Indy Coug

3/12/18 9:32pm

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East1999

3/12/18 9:35pm

Out maneuvered? How about a complete lack of integrity by certain AD's & Pres?

Q-grr

3/12/18 10:21pm

There is no way they would be able to get a decent schedule w/o announcing it.

SUAVO

3/12/18 9:33pm

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East1999

3/12/18 9:37pm

The point is that you can't have a decent schedule for years down the road.

SUAVO

3/12/18 9:44pm

You can't be serious, if utah was still in mwc we would still be in mwc.

kolob32

3/12/18 10:25pm

Doesn't mean byu didn't have a plan in place

SUAVO

3/12/18 10:32pm

RE: Doesn't mean byu didn't have a plan in place

kolob32

3/12/18 10:44pm

People have been saying this was planned since independence. This isn't a new

SUAVO

3/12/18 10:51pm

"People"? This is the first time I've read this on CB. Maybe I missed the post.

kolob32

3/12/18 10:57pm

It was all over this board when,we went Indy. A lot of yewt fans saying we went

SUAVO

3/12/18 11:28pm

If they hadn’t had a plan in place, there’s no way they’d have been able to pull

gwalker

3/12/18 9:38pm

.....with the help of ESPN for football scheduling. That helped a lot.

Bonoman

3/13/18 12:22am

How do you know we aren’t right now? And how do you know we haven’t made the

gwalker

3/12/18 9:34pm

People already think the worst about BYU so they latch onto things

Indy Coug

3/12/18 9:36pm

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East1999

3/12/18 9:40pm

Some people piss and moan until the new coach goes 4-9

Indy Coug

3/12/18 9:43pm

Im sure the $18 million contract wasnt the reason BM left, it probably had more

kolob32

3/12/18 10:49pm

Regardless if CB had any iota of actual influence in his departure, the fact remains

Indy Coug

3/12/18 10:57pm

Lets agree it was the minority, just like the minority want Rose gone.

kolob32

3/12/18 11:00pm

Mendenhall was pushed out and he found another job.

Belboz

3/13/18 8:23am

Bronco was done at BYU mentally, he knew it was time to move on....

Bonoman

3/13/18 12:27am

If the people involved with the MWC are so horrible, why did BYU join with or

DapperDan

3/12/18 9:47pm

Seriously. We created it, then left them high and dry. Now we act like we are

Cougarfan777

3/12/18 9:53pm

They flat out lied to us with the creation of CSTV/the Mtn. They refused to

gwalker

3/12/18 9:58pm

BOOM goes the Dynamite!!! Many here don't know how bad HAIR Thompson shafted BYU

Q-grr

3/12/18 10:23pm

We need to let broadcast rights go, isn't that what kept us out of b12, all BYUs

kolob32

3/12/18 11:07pm

We are a million miles away from knowing what, if anything, we did to keep us

gwalker

3/12/18 11:22pm

*unless the rumors are about the MWC screwing BYU, then they're gospel

DapperDan

3/13/18 7:58am

Except in this case it's not a rumor. Dave Checketts, who created CSTV and was

SWP

3/13/18 8:52am

Link?

DapperDan

3/13/18 9:16am

Here you go:

SWP

3/13/18 9:24am

Thanks. That confirms that it wasn't the MWC that screwed over BYU, it was

DapperDan

3/13/18 9:42am

I'm not sure that distinction matters when considering a reentry to the MWC.

SWP

3/13/18 11:51am

That's a completely different discussion

DapperDan

3/13/18 12:21pm

So...you want BYU to be proactively doing what's best for BYU, but at the same

SWP

3/13/18 8:48am

We found out what they were after forming the MWC. Going back may

gwalker

3/12/18 9:54pm

We had been in the same conference with them for decades. Of course they'd be

DapperDan

3/12/18 9:56pm

Not so. They did that with the TV issue before we left.

gwalker

3/12/18 9:59pm

Knifed them in the back? We carried them like Gonzaga has carried the WCC for

Q-grr

3/12/18 10:26pm

It's BYU. Athletics are fifth. Or something like that

TNT

3/12/18 9:36pm

That's right. Why do I get so invested....

Cougarfan777

3/12/18 9:45pm

TNT's cardboard box has many fist holes in it

TNT

3/12/18 9:46pm

fist holes?

Belboz

3/12/18 9:54pm

RE: fist holes?

TNT

3/12/18 10:20pm

I decided against attaching the GIF

Belboz

3/12/18 10:22pm

Chuck Norris doesn't fear TNT, but he does respect him.

Q-grr

3/12/18 10:28pm

If you have any grand ideas, we are all ears. Maybe call Goddell on his cell

WizeGuise

3/12/18 10:02pm

BYU made a proactive pitch to get in the PAC10 in the 90’s...

NorCal_Coug

3/12/18 10:47pm

TNT has gone on record with his opinion on this

TNT

3/12/18 10:55pm

TNT may be right...

NorCal_Coug

3/12/18 11:03pm

Oooooh the 90’s. if I could go back......

indojoe

3/13/18 12:12am

You have no idea because you are not in the AD’s office.

rockyrd

3/12/18 10:52pm

What is it you want BYU to do?

StantonMac

3/12/18 11:07pm

the ol' "do something, ANYTHING" answer seems appropriate for many posters here.

StarMan

3/12/18 11:40pm

I know...let’s bring back a popular player as HCand a Heisman winner as OC....

Bonoman

3/13/18 12:30am

From day one I have been against the idea of sacrificing the basketball program

Cougarfan777

3/12/18 11:52pm

Sounds pretty reactionary to me.

StantonMac

3/13/18 12:03am

Right, the only option is to be reactionary right now. We are reacting to the

Cougarfan777

3/13/18 12:09am

When someone else was the AD

chirocoug

3/12/18 11:37pm

It’s not a dichotomy. When proactive isn’t even an option, reactive > no-active

3/12/18 11:50pm

Take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard.

Ned Schneebly

3/13/18 12:29am

BYU is just not a proactive institution at the moment, in pretty much any regard

QuikCars

3/13/18 12:41am

Grand Canyon

EastCougar

3/13/18 5:56am

Seriously. We need to force ourselves into the SEC.

Refugee

3/13/18 6:00am

Given most of the CB suggestions for "acting", I'd can only say

panguitch

3/13/18 8:18am

Greg Wrubell told Cridell that BYU BB would be fine...let's trust Greg

Bonoman

3/13/18 12:41pm

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