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Feb 18, 2019
11:19:06am

Oranje Starter

Sure, but I don't see us airing commercials during football and basketball games

touting our directors cup finishes either. I can't say the same for the Pac 12. They can't help but flood the airways with "Conference of Champions" ads despite no football titles since USC in 2004 and no basketball championships since Arizona in 1997.

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Oranje

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Arizona sports radio talked on Thursday just how bad Pac 12 basketball is.

Oranje

2/18/19 9:25am

I'm interested to find out why the PAC-12 has been struggling

Crazy Duck

2/18/19 9:27am

Their best program in football and basketball got caught cheating.

byubyu

2/18/19 9:28am

There has to be more than that. It's a pretty deep conference.

Crazy Duck

2/18/19 9:34am

Just some theories they have thrown out there the last few years:

Oranje

2/18/19 9:54am

Demographic changes

TomPetty

2/18/19 12:47pm

You could begin by looking at the really bad coaches who have been in the Pac-12

wcj99

2/18/19 9:42pm

Th south division has had the same problem in football

puntersarepeople

2/19/19 6:58am

The North Division has been more stable, but even Oregon has had a ton of

wcj99

2/19/19 7:15am

Not just the past couple years

BYU '80

2/18/19 10:29pm

I think if BYU played a Pac-12 schedule this year that we would be competing for

2/18/19 9:28am

We might still have a shot at first honestly

puntersarepeople

2/18/19 11:50am

Here's the measuring stick for Cougar fans but don't know

Snake Dog

2/18/19 3:45pm

Considering 7 teams are currently within 2 losses and "battling for 2nd place"

2/18/19 4:00pm

Let me say it a different way

Snake Dog

2/18/19 6:49pm

We could absolutely be in second place in the PAC 12

puntersarepeople

2/18/19 6:58pm

Or how BYU destroyed the third place team on a neutral court

BYU '80

2/18/19 10:30pm

Or how BYU melted down against San Fran on home court.

Snake Dog

2/22/19 6:39am

USF is probably better than anyone in the pac but uw

BYU '80

2/22/19 11:39am

Come on man

Snake Dog

2/24/19 9:37pm

You’re wrong. USF is more of a bubble team than any in the PAC

puntersarepeople

2/25/19 2:20pm

Yep, it's a terrible conference. Wanna trade places?

neboutefan

2/18/19 9:29am

Nope. I'd rather stay indy or join the Big 12.

Oranje

2/18/19 9:35am

Out of the P5 conferences it's the worst

Crazy Duck

2/18/19 9:35am

Wrong, it's the PAC12 by far. However, I agree it's 10x better than B-league

blackshirts

2/18/19 1:54pm

Yes we would trade in a heartbeat

cwilke1

2/18/19 9:42am

To be a shoe-in into post season? Sure, we don't mind squashing a few cupcakes.

2/18/19 9:56am

Very common response from utes. That’s all you got?

BYU '80

2/18/19 10:31pm

And yet the "conference of champions" will get 3 or 4 teams into the tourney...

Coug

2/18/19 9:31am

The Pac-12 will not get 3-4 teams in the tourney this year. I think it's safe

2/18/19 9:33am

I think they get 1 maybe 2 this year

Crazy Duck

2/18/19 9:34am

Well it can't be 1... cause the conference is guaranteed 2 spots

Coug

2/18/19 9:59am

Um, no conference has 2 auto bids. Only the conference tournament champion.

Oranje

2/18/19 10:01am

RE: Um, no conference has 2 auto bids. Only the conference tournament champion.

2/18/19 10:03am

Touche, and awesome McBain reference.

Oranje

2/18/19 10:05am

Did you read my post?

Oranje

2/18/19 9:37am

why do people respond without reading?

Mayor of Cougartown

2/18/19 9:41am

They call themselves the “Conference of Champions” because across all sports,

garyfan

2/18/19 9:42am

These are list produce by the PAC 12 itself, and slightly suspect. They UW as

Lieutenant America

2/18/19 9:53am

So you’re disputing the fact that the P12 has far more national titles than the

garyfan

2/18/19 9:54am

yeah the olympic sports that no one cares about. YAY!!Cross country and swimming

Mayor of Cougartown

2/18/19 9:56am

Sure, but that’s a weird comment for a board that celebrates BYU’s success

garyfan

2/18/19 10:08am

Sure, but I don't see us airing commercials during football and basketball games

Oranje

2/18/19 11:19am

Just because you are fixated on those 2 sports doesn’t mean they have to be.

garyfan

2/18/19 11:36am

I would say my area of expertise is volleyball.

Oranje

2/18/19 11:49am

Particularly fans of teams who wish they could be in the conference.

garyfan

2/18/19 11:55am

I did grad school at Arizona State. I don't want us in that conference.

Oranje

2/18/19 12:06pm

So you think Indy/WCC > P12?

garyfan

2/18/19 12:16pm

For us specifically right now? Yes.

Oranje

2/18/19 1:00pm

LOL. Ok, sure.

garyfan

2/18/19 3:26pm

volleyball both men and women sell out the smith fieldhouse.

Mayor of Cougartown

2/18/19 2:02pm

I do not do that.

Mayor of Cougartown

2/18/19 2:02pm

There's actually a fairly straightforward path to 2 bids for the Pac-12. Wash is

2/18/19 10:08am

The Wildcat’s mediocre year is an aberration though

Croweater

2/18/19 10:48am

If Sean Miller survives then yes. But...

Oranje

2/18/19 11:22am

They haven’t even been sanctioned for that scandal yet

BYU '80

2/18/19 10:33pm

Less so than it once was. This will be the 3rd time since 2010 that Arizona

2/20/19 12:58am

I just dont see the a big $ conference only getting in 1 team - hope to be wrong

BYUfan92

2/18/19 11:46am

I have a theory on why the conference is so bad, in case you are wondering...

lilpenny

2/18/19 1:06pm

BYU has some market share? Other than that lame comment I agree with you

BYU '80

2/18/19 10:34pm

And yet the WCC is rated below the P12 last I saw. Probably due to bottom teams

Bob Vance

2/18/19 1:56pm

The WCC and Pac-12 each have one sub 250 team (Cal and Portland). The WCC has

2/18/19 2:10pm

Okay and the pac 12 has 10 teams in the top 115. The WCC only has 5.

RdF3

2/18/19 4:32pm

Right. The WCC is much stronger at the top. The WCC has 30% of its teams in the

2/18/19 6:58pm

I’ll bet a JCWs meal they get 2 in. All because they are the

StalwartBraveTrue

2/18/19 9:30pm

"Conference of Champions." I can't even listen to Bill Walton during a Pac 12

Boomcannon

2/19/19 4:41am

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