Zach Lowe gives him a lot of credit in this article

Jun 16, 2019
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Anatomy of a Deal: Kawhi Leonard for George Hill

Nearly two years later, we look back on the Spurs-Pacers trade, which has had huge implications for the 2013 conference finals.

https://grantland.com/features/analyzing-kawhi-leonard-george-hill-trade-2013-conference-finals/

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Andy Larsen is reporting that it's more likely than not that the Jazz trade

Hypnotoad

6/16/19 8:40pm

Been saying that for weeks. Thanks Andy!

smokymountainrain

6/16/19 8:41pm

So Andy reads CB?

cougarnerd

6/16/19 8:43pm

Yes.

smokymountainrain

6/16/19 8:44pm

Pick doesn't have much value either

TNT

6/16/19 8:44pm

It has more value to a rebuilding team than it does to the Jazz.

Hypnotoad

6/16/19 8:49pm

A second rounder plus the Flint Tropics' dryer and locker room possum.

foofcoug

6/16/19 8:53pm

And yet we still have CBers who are *agonizing* over picks like Grayson Allen

Game Changer

6/16/19 8:53pm

People just love to complain. I just don't get fretting over the draft.

Hypnotoad

6/16/19 8:56pm

Lol are you serious? Sixers tanking was an obvious success.

Deleted

6/16/19 9:01pm

Are they closer to winning a championship than the Jazz?

Hypnotoad

6/16/19 9:03pm

Uh .. Yes. They have 2 players on their team better than any player on the jazz. Jazz made no improvements since donavan

Deleted

6/16/19 9:05pm

What have they accomplished that the Jazz haven’t.

Father Abraham

6/16/19 9:12pm

So the only argument is they lost in the 2nd round? In 7 games to the champ? Not a great argument

Deleted

6/16/19 9:21pm

With nothing to show for it so far.

cougarnerd

6/16/19 9:23pm

So because they didn't win year one, standing pat is the same as acquiring another all Star?

Deleted

6/16/19 9:25pm

The point is that the Sixers and Jazz are on pretty even footing, despite

Hypnotoad

6/16/19 9:26pm

You think their rosters are equally talented? Please.

Deleted

6/16/19 9:28pm

Did you even read the part about their records being off by 1 game?

Hypnotoad

6/16/19 9:31pm

You do know their roster changed during the season...

Deleted

6/16/19 9:33pm

Yep. And they still finished with nearly the same record, despite the Jazz

Hypnotoad

6/16/19 9:34pm

The sixers won 1 more game in the reg season than the Jazz, in a much

Hypnotoad

6/16/19 9:25pm

So who has improved their roster more since the jazz drafted Mitchell

Deleted

6/16/19 9:27pm

Considering they finished with nearly identical records, I say it's a draw

Hypnotoad

6/16/19 9:34pm

So because they lost to the champs, Butler & Harris= korver. You should be a gm

Deleted

6/16/19 9:38pm

Do you want cool players or do you want wins?

Father Abraham

6/16/19 9:39pm

I never thought I'd see someone claim Krover is as good as Butler and Harris

Deleted

6/16/19 11:03pm

At least you’re entertaining. But you’re embarrassing yourself tonight.

Father Abraham

6/16/19 11:17pm

By saying Butler is better than Krover ?

Deleted

6/17/19 7:39am

A couple things about the Sixers

CocaColaRecovery

6/16/19 10:02pm

All depends on free agency

thebruce

6/16/19 10:07pm

Locke has been hinting this way too

Father Abraham

6/16/19 8:49pm

I think it has been reported for months the Jazz aren't impressed with this

JuicyJam

6/16/19 8:49pm

Dennis Lindsey is realizing he struck lightning twice and really isn’t a very

RdF3

6/16/19 8:51pm

Or that the Jazz are in a different phase of team building than they

Hypnotoad

6/16/19 8:53pm

Kawhi Leonard, Rudy Gobert, and Donovan Mitchell might be 3 of the 5 best picks

Father Abraham

6/16/19 8:57pm

Uh... No

Deleted

6/16/19 9:02pm

Compelling logic

Father Abraham

6/16/19 9:08pm

Tony Bradley and Grayson Allen were both unfathomably bad.

RdF3

6/16/19 9:10pm

Nobody bats 1.000

Father Abraham

6/16/19 9:22pm

Exum. Burks. Lyles only saved by trade.

Deleted

6/16/19 9:26pm

Burks was drafted by KOC. Did you mean Burke?

Hypnotoad

6/16/19 9:36pm

You’re holding him accountable for a guy he didn’t draft?

Father Abraham

6/16/19 9:37pm

Anytime the 3rd pick never contributes, it's a bust. I was thinking Burke but at least he tried.

Deleted

6/16/19 9:47pm

Anticipating talent and development is one thing. But predicting injuries? Ok.

Father Abraham

6/16/19 9:56pm

lol a guy who has been in for one year was unfathomably bad?

Lip Gallagher

6/16/19 9:36pm

I've said it was obvious from the start Grayson would suck, and he does

RdF3

6/16/19 9:44pm

lol give me a break. It's been one season.

Lip Gallagher

6/16/19 9:50pm

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Deleted

6/16/19 9:51pm

He wasn't the GM in San Antonio..

thebruce

6/16/19 9:55pm

I would also not say they are 3 of the 5 best picks.

thebruce

6/16/19 9:56pm

They were still both very good picks for where they were drafted

BrutustheBrash

6/16/19 10:21pm

That is true. Just not top 5 IMO.

thebruce

6/17/19 6:26am

Zach Lowe gives him a lot of credit in this article

BrutustheBrash

6/16/19 10:19pm

Yes, just as you can probably give Justin zanik credit for some of the jazz

thebruce

6/17/19 6:25am

Whenever he does anything good, we'll just call it dumb luck. But we will hold

Game Changer

6/16/19 8:57pm

Every pick besides Rudy and Mitchell, and no real improvements otherwise

Deleted

6/16/19 9:08pm

Hood was a bad pick at 23?

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