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cougarmanguy
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And yet, Wilson and love had pretty much the same PER last year
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Wilson>Huntley according to PFF, 18th overall in CFB
puntersarepeople
6/17/19 5:28pm
Ooooh "advanced stats." LOL.
Virginia Ute
6/17/19 5:29pm
They are real stats
puntersarepeople
6/17/19 5:33pm
So you insist on claiming you have an eye for evaluating QB talent?
CLCougar
6/17/19 5:37pm
^ doesn’t understand math. Proceeds to make fun of math.
YIsForBrigham
6/17/19 5:43pm
Weird that you care so much about BYU....
WJCougar
6/17/19 6:23pm
“Advanced” may be an unfamiliar word for Utes, but in other parts of the world
Pistol Shrimp
6/17/19 6:46pm
It is obvious. He’s the best qb in the state
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:30pm
How is it obvious?
Virginia Ute
6/17/19 5:30pm
Advanced stats...duh. 😀
idcougarfan
6/17/19 5:32pm
What individual metric is there that
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:32pm
But having the benefit of doing that against McNeese instead of UW.
Virginia Ute
6/17/19 5:34pm
Neither Huntley nor Wilson started against Mcneese state last year
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:36pm
Oh my bad. Then I can toss in NMSU, Hawaii, and UMass....yeah, those stats aren't padded.
Virginia Ute
6/17/19 5:38pm
I see. Schedule smack to cover for huntleys average numbers
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:39pm
Schedule smack? That's not what this is. It's taking those numbers in context.
Virginia Ute
6/17/19 5:42pm
Lol. You mean the thing that advanced are specifically built to do
YIsForBrigham
6/17/19 5:44pm
Those "advanced stats" say that he is a better QB than Oregon's Herbert. That should tell you enough about their method
Virginia Ute
6/17/19 5:45pm
it is really amazing how defensive Utah fans are about the Wilson topic
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:47pm
What's amazing is how much you guys hype your QBs year in and year out....only to see them bite the dust
Virginia Ute
6/17/19 5:50pm
Again with the being defensive
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:50pm
What are you even talking about? We are both posting here....I don't know why my posts are defensive and yours
Virginia Ute
6/17/19 5:52pm
So says the same dude who so haughtily & condescendingly stated that TH would NEVER
CLCougar
6/17/19 6:27pm
What is amazing is that you, are here...
DraperCoug22
6/17/19 6:31pm
You comma usage lol
Virginia Ute
6/17/19 7:49pm
Yeah a Utah QB wouldn't possibly face a bad D in the mighty Pac12. lol
Lip Gallagher
6/17/19 5:47pm
Huntley has big games against terrible conference opponents defenses
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:49pm
There's a difference between P12 bad like UCLA and UNMstate bad.
Virginia Ute
6/17/19 5:50pm
the degree of horrible matters I guess
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:52pm
Yes, it sure does.
Virginia Ute
6/17/19 5:53pm
Padding stats against bad teams is still padding stats
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:54pm
Quite often, there's not.
Lip Gallagher
6/17/19 5:56pm
Maybe...
CoachSpeak
6/17/19 6:17pm
I have yet to see advanced stats that lie....so yeah, pretty obvious
BYUheaven
6/17/19 5:33pm
What other basis of rating a player is there?
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:34pm
When the stats don't back ya up....dig a little deeper to the advanced stats
Virginia Ute
6/17/19 5:34pm
Well that's where you are kind of wrong.
BYUheaven
6/17/19 5:36pm
It’s a funny world when we argue that advanced math stats don’t mean anything
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:38pm
It's a funny world when you quote stats but don't control for opponent strength.
Virginia Ute
6/17/19 5:38pm
Also, Wilson played three tier one defenses last year
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:40pm
Did he get any wins against any of these said defenses?
Virginia Ute
6/17/19 5:43pm
That’s why this is a team game.
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:43pm
Smiley when you don’t have a good response.
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:46pm
Sorry, took a break to go make some nachos.
Virginia Ute
6/17/19 5:47pm
So no. No wins against any of those tier 1 defenses.
Virginia Ute
6/17/19 5:47pm
So no good response from you, I see
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:48pm
Your QB can't win big games.
Virginia Ute
6/17/19 5:51pm
Your qb is average.
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:53pm
Yes. He has done good things for us, though.
Virginia Ute
6/17/19 5:53pm
Yes, I concede that point until it changes
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:54pm
His worst games were against bad teams
puntersarepeople
6/17/19 5:44pm
Which individual stats, of any kind, say otherwise
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:36pm
He had a QBR of 10 against the 126th ranked defense in Division 1 football. There's a telling stat for ya.
Virginia Ute
6/17/19 5:40pm
I see. Cherry picking meaningless single game stats
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:41pm
Why is that stat meaningless? If you are in the Heisman race, for example, do you think it would be meaningless
Virginia Ute
6/17/19 5:44pm
Wilson’s worst game was against northern Illinois, a tier one defense
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:46pm
* new mex st
BlueFrog
6/17/19 5:50pm
Actually yeah, single game performances are pretty meaningless when
Lip Gallagher
6/17/19 5:49pm
The best QB in the state belonged to Utah State
donnerstag
6/17/19 5:36pm
And yet, Wilson and love had pretty much the same PER last year
cougarmanguy
6/17/19 5:37pm
Was he on another level or was the rest of his team on another level?
puntersarepeople
6/17/19 5:39pm
did you even watch him play? Love was on another level
BlueFrog
6/17/19 5:39pm
It's a combination of weak schedule, great supporting cast
donnerstag
6/17/19 5:46pm
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Jacob4thejazz
6/17/19 11:00pm
Agreed
puntersarepeople
6/18/19 7:10am
And he actually DID play one of the worst schedules out there.
Lip Gallagher
6/17/19 5:51pm
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Jacob4thejazz
6/17/19 11:01pm
I agree, Love was certainly the best of the three last season...
CoachSpeak
6/17/19 5:57pm
But he doesn't pass the Utah Fan Eyeball Test!!
Gustav
6/17/19 5:39pm
Sooooey!
CoachSpeak
6/17/19 5:59pm
Wilson > Huntley according to everyone with eyes and a brain. Probably excludes must ute fans
YIsForBrigham
6/17/19 5:41pm
How many more threads exactly like this are we going to have to endure before Game 1?
SingleStrapBackpack
6/17/19 5:57pm
Obviously
2FarGone
6/17/19 6:08pm
It’s true. Wilson easily passes the eyeball test
Robbinoburrito
6/17/19 6:38pm
Agreed. I liked Wilson's Moxie...Even if that's not
TFL
6/17/19 6:40pm
Scoreboard
Medute
6/17/19 6:50pm
Oh yeah, well.... Half Time Scoreboard!
PJMort
6/17/19 7:13pm
Oh yeah! Sorry for some reason it looked like 11 on 11, not 1-on-1 with the QBs
Coug Man in Florida
6/17/19 8:40pm
Hmmm...
DocPimp
6/17/19 6:50pm
There really isn’t a way to prove it because they don’t technically go
Coug Man in Florida
6/17/19 8:51pm
Fair points, as I do think Utah has a better defense
DocPimp
6/17/19 9:46pm
I'll tell you who is better in January 2020
BYURider
6/17/19 9:34pm
This is 100% true. Indisputable.
DocPimp
6/17/19 9:47pm
Wait nevermind. Lol I read Jan 2021 in my mind.
DocPimp
6/17/19 9:48pm
This poor kid
Solomon Levi
6/18/19 9:17am
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