BYU. Andy Ludwig is back again... didn't they get rid of him once

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Jul 14, 2019
7:28:23am

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During their decade of changing offensive coordinators?

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If both BYU and Utah come out and play their BEST in the rivalry game, who do

Robbinoburrito

7/13/19 6:24pm

BYU

HarlemCoug

7/13/19 6:25pm

Utah for sure

Zigzag21

7/13/19 6:26pm

BYU.

BYUtka

7/13/19 6:26pm

BYU easily

TANK

7/13/19 6:29pm

How do you figure? Utah does have more talent they will have a lot of people

Zigzag21

7/13/19 6:36pm

Talent is pretty subjective, so your statement about Utah having more talent

basman

7/13/19 7:13pm

Then how do you determine talent

Zigzag21

7/13/19 7:17pm

Gimme a break. Talk to a recruiter about who has more talent.

FairWeather-L.I.T.S.

7/14/19 12:27pm

you are a yewt troll. why do you consistently claim differently? at least own it man....

HarlemCoug

7/14/19 4:20pm

I agree he’s a Ute idk why he doesn’t just say he is

Zigzag21

7/14/19 4:22pm

Lets revisit this conversation of who has more talent around week 4 or 5. Eh???

studmuffin85

7/14/19 9:51pm

How bout after week 1 eh?

Zigzag21

7/14/19 9:57pm

That too eh? Or you could just look at the last 8-9 years eh?

studmuffin85

7/14/19 10:09pm

Why don’t you address my valid point, that BYU keeps losing

FairWeather-L.I.T.S.

7/14/19 11:13pm

"The disparity in depth is drastic."

icecougar

7/15/19 12:15am

If that were the case all 8 of those losses to Utah would have been along the line of 54-10.

antiyewt

7/15/19 1:43am

Utah with ease.

Zedhead

7/13/19 7:26pm

RE: If both BYU and Utah come out and play their BEST in the rivalry game, who

rggee

7/13/19 6:30pm

I didn’t think of them.

Robbinoburrito

7/13/19 6:37pm

BYU, because game is at LES

Heinz57

7/13/19 6:36pm

How often does BYU beat Utah at LES?

Muted

7/14/19 1:20am

RE: If both BYU and Utah come out and play their BEST in the rivalry game, who

WJCougar

7/13/19 6:38pm

RE: If both BYU and Utah come out and play their BEST in the rivalry game, who

Robbinoburrito

7/13/19 7:20pm

Utah

BlueFrog

7/13/19 6:42pm

It's definitely Utah. Next year, and maybe the year after, it will be BYU.

displacedute

7/13/19 6:46pm

If I take the blue goggles off, the answer is Utah.

Pigskin Pete

7/13/19 6:47pm

Too close to call and too many unknowns to really speculate on each's "best".

BringYourUltimate

7/13/19 6:51pm

I agree, hence my question. I was really hoping BYU comes out and plays their

Robbinoburrito

7/13/19 6:56pm

I think when considering each's best the issue lies in the potential.

BringYourUltimate

7/13/19 7:29pm

Good take!

Robbinoburrito

7/13/19 7:42pm

How is this different than asking which team is more talented?

lilpenny

7/13/19 7:10pm

Maybe it isn't. But I was thinking against each other not in a vacuum.

Robbinoburrito

7/13/19 7:22pm

This is correct.

Refugee

7/13/19 7:33pm

Better athletes doesn’t mean a better TEAM. Especially in this rivalry.

Refugee

7/13/19 7:36pm

Their ceiling MIGHT be different with a "new" coach so their best might be less

yahtzee

7/13/19 9:28pm

Also because it includes the coaching component...

PROBcoug

7/14/19 7:35am

Utah.

mik3

7/13/19 7:16pm

Simply compare the positions....

UberDeek

7/13/19 7:32pm

RE: Simply compare the positions....

Zigzag21

7/13/19 7:37pm

RE: Simply compare the positions....

UberDeek

7/13/19 7:46pm

RE: Simply compare the positions....

displacedute

7/13/19 7:55pm

Gut says Utah but I must say asking to pit any two teams

CougaRR4L

7/13/19 11:38pm

That's absurd.

Et Lux in Domino

7/14/19 3:32am

Phil Steele is inaccurate, very often. I'm always right.

UberDeek

7/14/19 12:07pm

Nope. You also have to include the coaching component...

PROBcoug

7/14/19 7:35am

Yes, look how scared BYU coaches in the late 3rd Q changed the tone of...

icecougar

7/15/19 12:44am

DL goes Utah by a large stretch.

wilsdad

7/14/19 10:49am

Question: does it hurt to be THAT wrong?

UberDeek

7/14/19 12:09pm

RE: Question: does it hurt to be THAT wrong?

Zigzag21

7/14/19 12:14pm

says nobody

wilsdad

7/14/19 12:22pm

Utah has a bunch of fans with no home.... So they have to come here

UberDeek

7/14/19 12:41pm

RE: Utah has a bunch of fans with no home.... So they have to come here

Zigzag21

7/14/19 12:45pm

Y'all will be gone soon enough

UberDeek

7/14/19 12:48pm

So rather than respond to the point made, you ad-hom?

FairWeather-L.I.T.S.

7/14/19 12:51pm

What? I'm talking football, a sport of which I guarantee I know more than any of

UberDeek

7/14/19 1:59pm

Where did I mention or criticize grammar???

FairWeather-L.I.T.S.

7/14/19 2:55pm

Ignorance....

wilsdad

7/14/19 2:00pm

There is no quality in their program. They deserve to lose, not just the rivalry

UberDeek

7/14/19 2:06pm

RE: There is no quality in their program. They deserve to lose, not just the

Zigzag21

7/14/19 2:17pm

So BYU’s main rival doesn’t have a quality program?

FairWeather-L.I.T.S.

7/14/19 3:01pm

RE: says nobody

displacedute

7/14/19 1:46pm

Is Kalani coaching the second half for BYU or Utah?

777

7/13/19 7:33pm

Both at their best, Utah wins by two touchdowns.

The Dude Abides

7/13/19 7:38pm

BYU. Not even close. Yewt offense sucks.

Dr MoBYU

7/13/19 8:00pm

True, other than their RB. Plus, Puntwig is back as new O.C.

AntiSNOT

7/14/19 8:58pm

Utah's best is NY6 worthy. BYUs best is probably 8-9 win type season.

Y4LYFE

7/13/19 8:04pm

So what you're saying is...Utah will only have one loss and get to a NY6 bowl,

Robbinoburrito

7/13/19 8:18pm

Deal

Y4LYFE

7/13/19 11:52pm

Utah... the off season champs every year. Remeber every player on their team

BYUtka

7/13/19 8:36pm

Utah by as many points as miles separate the two teams

Blue2thebone

7/13/19 8:15pm

Yeah, nice one, yewtfan.

AntiSNOT

7/14/19 9:03pm

Utah nowadays. Wasn’t always the case

cajuncoug

7/13/19 8:53pm

Wow. More closet Ute fans than I expected.

niqmadu

7/13/19 9:01pm

Eye roll

Blue2thebone

7/14/19 12:12am

So non-bluegoggled BYU fans are closet Ute fans?

LifelongAP

7/14/19 10:09am

BYU of course! The last 8 games have been a fluke!

Gerald-DeGroot

7/13/19 10:24pm

Just look at the Vegas line. Utah is a better football team and will be favored.

pistol12

7/13/19 10:31pm

Utah currently favored by 6

BlueFrog

7/13/19 10:34pm

Absolutely right.

The Dude Abides

7/13/19 10:41pm

BYU cuz we have a bigger stadium and more Director’s Cup points

CallingDingo

7/13/19 10:44pm

BYU because Wilson has a higher ceiling

JKLCoug

7/13/19 11:26pm

I'm liking this BYU team and love their potential. But players are only part of

tony

7/13/19 11:38pm

The correct answer is...

DocPimp

7/14/19 12:38am

RE: The correct answer is...

Et Lux in Domino

7/14/19 3:47am

Sadly.... Utah. They are the better team, or at least have been for a while.

SouthernCoug

7/14/19 5:20am

BYU. Andy Ludwig is back again... didn't they get rid of him once

SaintGeorgeYFan

7/14/19 7:28am

I think he started the decade of offensive coordinators.

Jazznut26

7/14/19 10:13am

You are incorrect. Ludwig was their OC after Urban & Co. left town- from '04 to '08- including the undefeated 2008

Et Lux in Domino

7/14/19 12:47pm

A lot of fans wanted him to leave.

displacedute

7/14/19 1:40pm

True... A lot of FANS may have wanted him gone. A lot of fans are morons. Some fans want Whit gone, at times- one of the

Et Lux in Domino

7/14/19 7:32pm

On many, many occasions

AntiSNOT

7/14/19 8:42pm

'05 to '08. He wasn't the O.C. during the Fiesta Bowl season ('04).

AntiSNOT

7/14/19 8:44pm

Yes, and he wasn't called "punt-wig" for nothing... that fact alone certainly

AntiSNOT

7/14/19 8:41pm

I don’t get Punt-wig. The wig part confuses me.

Jazznut26

7/15/19 9:27pm

Never mind. Last name trickery

Jazznut26

7/15/19 9:28pm

BYU. Utah is going to be pretty suspect on offense all year - like every year.

Adwight

7/14/19 9:12am

This will be our best offense since '09 season.

AntiSNOT

7/14/19 8:50pm

Who would I bet $500 on?

bigjohn

7/14/19 9:54am

Utah has a great defense, what people often forget is that it’s not Utah’s D

Punk Philosopher

7/14/19 11:03am

...it's also BYU's coaches calling plays for the BYU O vs Utah's D...

icecougar

7/15/19 12:03am

Utes.

grosven

7/14/19 1:40pm

This has got to be the most hilarious response page in history...

jackryanslc

7/14/19 2:25pm

BYU

2FarGone

7/14/19 3:04pm

You are forced to bet $5k on game... who do you pick?

jackryanslc

7/14/19 5:54pm

Not answering the question asked but probably a much better barometer

PROBcoug

7/14/19 6:19pm

Huntley had zero experience 2 years ago and was out last year

jackryanslc

7/14/19 10:18pm

When does the "Best Team" win this game?

2FarGone

7/14/19 10:23pm

Zero times.

DocPimp

7/14/19 10:43pm

2005? 2002? Maybe BYU was the better team in 2010, but lost.

Et Lux in Domino

7/14/19 11:05pm

Any game where the score is within one is easily arguable that either was better

Robbinoburrito

7/15/19 5:03am

There is some truth to that...

DocPimp

7/15/19 7:47am

Utah.

Short Creek Cougar

7/15/19 1:05am

After seeing all the Ute apologists, I'd like to change my answer

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