Bull crap. You can tell yourself to make yourself feel better. A couple of decent seasons doesn’t qualify as having

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Sep 28, 2019
1:42:28pm

Zach Morris True Liberal

a “good program”. Toledo might crack the top 90 fbs programs.

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Zach Morris

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I’ve been vocal about Independence not being a good thing for BYU football...

Zach Morris True Liberal

9/28/19 1:37pm

Don't rip on Toledo... This is about BYU.

Richbyu

9/28/19 1:39pm

I think if we stopped being contrarians and refusing to change things like the

Resurgens

9/28/19 1:40pm

Dude. Toledo isn't nearly as bad as your saying. They are an above average G5

LiveCoug

9/28/19 1:40pm

Bull crap. You can tell yourself to make yourself feel better. A couple of decent seasons doesn’t qualify as having

Zach Morris

9/28/19 1:42pm

What the? Come on man. They are upper tier G5 and have been for a while

LiveCoug

9/28/19 1:45pm

Then the only alternative is BYU is really bad and needs to give up this embarrassing independence experiment.

Zach Morris

9/28/19 1:46pm

Sigh. Going G5 will NOT solve BYU's problem. I've been on record too stating

LiveCoug

9/28/19 1:50pm

I agree, and am ticked, but that isn’t fair to Toledo.

che flaco

9/28/19 1:41pm

you are correct. They are an upper tier G5

mindzeYe

9/28/19 1:43pm

CB constantly rants and raves about G5 conference champs being meaningless.. but now Toledo is a “good program”? Hahaha

Zach Morris

9/28/19 1:45pm

You aren't getting the argument as to why some don't think it would be

LiveCoug

9/28/19 1:51pm

All this talk about “nobody cares about G5 conference champions” around here and you wanna tell me they are a

Zach Morris

9/28/19 1:44pm

Yeah, I don't think you follow college football.

LiveCoug

9/28/19 1:45pm

Mr. looks down upon BYU going G5 is all the sudden a G5 connoisseur? LOL!

Zach Morris

9/28/19 1:48pm

? What in the world? Just because I don't think it would be smart for BYU to

LiveCoug

9/28/19 1:49pm

I'm with you. I don't think G5 would make the issues we're having better. We are

Resurgens

9/28/19 1:52pm

Exactly

Backcountry

9/28/19 1:51pm

You’re right, I agreed with you that BYU has no business losing to Toledo.

che flaco

9/28/19 1:51pm

BYU shouldn't lose to Toledo, but they are far better program than you think

mindzeYe

9/28/19 1:51pm

I agree. Which goes to show it's a coaching/admin problem, not an Indy problem

LiveCoug

9/28/19 1:55pm

Well, if Toledo is FCS quality, so is BYU. They have won on the road vs SEC, Big Ten

mindzeYe

9/28/19 1:42pm

The fools running the AD are incompetent and blind to the reality of their

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