But Utah won't get a trophy for it.

Bingo! Ding ding ding! Utah has beaten a bunch of mediocre teams this year

brazilcoug

11/16/19 8:15pm

So should we be proud of our mediocrity since it hurts the yewts?

CougarThug

11/16/19 10:16pm

USC and UW probably both get ranked at 8-4

displacedute

11/16/19 8:19pm

You say that like it makes a case for your inclusion

SUAVO

11/16/19 8:21pm

thanks for the silver lining to those losses

yahtzee

11/16/19 8:30pm

RE: PSA that Utah has not beaten a single team currently ranked in either major

swingcat

11/16/19 8:20pm

They probably won’t get in. But you don’t understand the fascination? A Utah team that is knocking on

The Dude Abides

11/16/19 8:21pm

Oh I understand the fascination. But it’s a fantasy land.

ldssdl

11/16/19 8:30pm

I don’t understand the fascination. I don’t care, follow, or watch Utah unless

Blue for Life

11/17/19 12:05am

Whatever makes you feel better

MatthiasPhunkHausen

11/16/19 8:22pm

I grew up out East and currently live out East. Only lived in Utah during my BYU

ldssdl

11/16/19 8:29pm

Lol the rest of the outside world has Utah ranked

DocPimp

11/16/19 9:56pm

The “rest of” that doesn’t have em top 10, got it. Whatever makes u feel better

MatthiasPhunkHausen

11/17/19 1:19am

Utah sitting at number 7 in the CFP and another

DocPimp

11/17/19 5:39am

They'll never understand, living in that bubble of a state. Utah is a nobody

Diablo and Doc

11/22/19 6:09am

But with Tua getting hurt, they may not let Alabama in, if LSU beats

stlcougs

11/16/19 8:24pm

Lol. You haven’t done the math.

Virginia Ute

11/16/19 8:24pm

You mean the math that Utah wouldn’t crack the top 4 of the SEC? And people

ldssdl

11/16/19 8:27pm

Utah is a threat to make the playoff. You know it. I can sense your angst about it. Lol.

Virginia Ute

11/16/19 8:28pm

RE: Utah is a threat to make the playoff. You know it. I can sense your angst

ldssdl

11/16/19 8:29pm

Each POTD your post got is from someone who has a ton of angst about where Utah sits in the standings right now.

Virginia Ute

11/16/19 8:31pm

So, your best reason for Utah's inclusion is that BYU fans have "angst"?

SUAVO

11/16/19 8:40pm

RE: So, your best reason for Utah's inclusion is that BYU fans have "angst"?

Virginia Ute

11/16/19 8:47pm

I'm asking for a reason. Not a break down of what you think will happen

SUAVO

11/16/19 8:50pm

I don’t know why they are ranked 7 right now. All that matters is that they are.

Virginia Ute

11/16/19 9:15pm

Given their SOS I agree w/ you: 7 is too high. And, 7 is not 4 or less.

BleedCougarBlue2

11/16/19 10:09pm

‘7 is not 4 or less’.

DocPimp

11/17/19 5:41am

And each of your counter arguments is an emotional one rather than anything

ldssdl

11/16/19 8:43pm

So in case you didn’t notice, Utah is already ranked 7th, so let’s start there.

Virginia Ute

11/16/19 8:47pm

It’s not 2008, Bama and Utah don’t belong in the same sentence.

ldssdl

11/16/19 9:01pm

Let me make this easy for you: Utah has to move up 3 spots. They have to win out.

Virginia Ute

11/16/19 9:13pm

Now let’s review what a PAC12 championship is worth.

ldssdl

11/16/19 9:27pm

Doesn’t matter. It will be a win over a top 6 or 7 team. Doesn’t matter what P12 has done against OOC at this point.

Virginia Ute

11/16/19 9:29pm

What ship has sailed? It’s easy to put Utah highly ranked now.

ldssdl

11/16/19 9:42pm

Kind of a dumb argument - you can make the same argument about the B12?

DocPimp

11/16/19 9:50pm

The Big12 is 6-4 against OOC P5 schools.

ldssdl

11/16/19 9:59pm

I don’t buy the blue blood argument. Otherwise no way would they have Utah at #7

DocPimp

11/16/19 10:05pm

All I know is in pretty much every model, Utah and Oregon getting a ton

DocPimp

11/16/19 9:54pm

Remind us who Oklahoma and Baylor beat in their OOC games...

Middy

11/16/19 9:57pm

Thanks captain obvious.

DocPimp

11/16/19 9:21pm

Lol and we’ll see how right you are.

DocPimp

11/16/19 9:21pm

But he lives out East!!! So clearly he knows.

Virginia Ute

11/16/19 9:30pm

It’s easy to be right when you can just make up arguments.

ldssdl

11/16/19 9:36pm

Sorry to be fair I was just generalizing the CB microphone

DocPimp

11/16/19 9:44pm

I thought at minimum Utah would finish 3rd in the PAC12, and probably win the

ldssdl

11/16/19 9:54pm

Def agree with you about the steep hill.

DocPimp

11/16/19 9:59pm

I’m not counting on BYU beating Utah next year. Whittingham is a fantastic coach

ldssdl

11/16/19 10:02pm

RE: Utah is a threat to make the playoff. You know it. I can sense your angst

crazY

11/16/19 8:32pm

You're on the wrong message board

NAPAnick

11/16/19 11:45pm

And you refuse to look at things factually. What a shocker.

BleedCougarBlue2

11/16/19 10:07pm

How's my math now Virginia Ute?

ldssdl

12/7/19 9:15am

Pac12 will have multiple teams in top 25 by the end of the season.

DocPimp

11/16/19 9:00pm

8 straight of what? It’s 9 now.

ldssdl

11/16/19 9:28pm

BYU has been solid. Teams lose to bad teams all the time...

DocPimp

11/16/19 9:46pm

Give credit where it’s due. I hate Utah and hope they lose every game

D.T. Survivor

11/16/19 9:18pm

What credit? They haven’t beaten a ranked team.

ldssdl

11/16/19 9:31pm

They have beaten only 2 bowl eligible teams so far.

crazY

11/16/19 9:40pm

Still tougher than BYU’s 1984 schedule.

CrimsonCardinal

11/16/19 9:43pm

But Utah won't get a trophy for it.

crazY

11/16/19 9:45pm

It’s a no brainer for Utah fans...

DocPimp

11/16/19 9:48pm

Because you actually have to beat other good teams to earn a trophy now.

CrimsonCardinal

11/16/19 9:49pm

So, Utah shouldn't get a trophy this season

SUAVO

11/16/19 9:50pm

Correct, unless they beat Oregon and two other playoff teams.

CrimsonCardinal

11/16/19 9:57pm

Hahahahahahahahahahaha they won't beat Oregon.

crazY

11/16/19 9:58pm

They may not win any trophy. Even a bowl trophy

SUAVO

11/16/19 10:01pm

All could be true - we haven’t earned anything yet.

CrimsonCardinal

11/16/19 10:11pm

If Utah wins out and beats Oregon convincingly I think they should

jre85

11/16/19 9:49pm

If they beat Oregon, I'd put them in.

IronPotato

11/16/19 10:32pm

Another perspective, a look at the CFP history all time.

ldssdl

11/16/19 11:03pm

It’s also interesting that every CFP selection but one already has won NCs.

ldssdl

11/16/19 11:21pm

One final note: Bama, Georgia, and LSU could all finish with one loss.

ldssdl

11/17/19 12:14am

228-54, thats the point total since USC, includes a tight WA game

BrotherBrighamsBeard

11/17/19 12:00am

Utah hasn’t beaten anyone? None ranked? Didn’t they smoke us?

Swishfromdeep3

11/17/19 12:26am

Yeah, we aren't very good and we aren't ranked. Any other questions?

IceCreamButt

11/19/19 8:40pm

The playoff is too small

MarylandFan

11/17/19 3:25am

Be careful what you wish for

bigjohn

11/17/19 7:20am

BYU will never get in to the CFP under the 4 team format, even with consecutive

ldssdl

11/17/19 8:48am

I legit wonder what BYU would have done with Utah's schedule this year.

MaxxPower

11/19/19 9:04pm

Utah would almost certainly be undefeated or have 1 loss v. BYU's schedule.

displacedute

11/19/19 9:09pm

David Locke gave a stat on his podcast a week or two ago about travel. Essentially

MaxxPower

11/19/19 9:13pm

The only two plausible losses are Boise and USC.

displacedute

11/19/19 9:19pm

I understand your confidence, but you can't have it both ways.

MaxxPower

11/19/19 9:32pm

Utah struggles at the Coliseum. We're better against SC in Salt Lake.

displacedute

11/19/19 10:22pm

Exactly. Tennessee wouldn't be a sure fire win either.

HONOMO

11/19/19 11:06pm

Also can't make the travel argument going both ways. You claim you'd beat USC at home but that

Soupie

11/19/19 9:41pm

Game wasn't close?

displacedute

11/19/19 10:21pm

Yes and USC was ahead for 3 quarters of the game & never trailed. Care to address the travel double standard?

Soupie

11/19/19 10:31pm

You lost to two TERRIBLE teams. Utah would not have.

displacedute

11/19/19 10:56pm

I'd say 8-2

HONOMO

11/19/19 11:06pm

Yep

MaxxPower

11/19/19 11:16pm

That's my best case scenario too. Think if Utah starts with 4 P5 in a row traveling to Tenn, they start 2-2

Soupie

11/19/19 11:19pm

Lolzzz. I love playing the hypothetical game.

DocPimp

11/20/19 12:29am

Best fact of all:

DocPimp

11/20/19 12:31am

This is just insane.

CrimsonCardinal

11/20/19 1:16pm

*nodding head*.

DocPimp

11/20/19 1:59pm

This whole argument is too much for me to let go.

CrimsonCardinal

11/20/19 5:09pm

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yahtzee

11/20/19 6:41pm

Agree with all that. It’s gotta be their bias and hatred against us...

DocPimp

11/20/19 7:10pm

Don’t be ridiculous...

CoachSpeak

11/20/19 7:54pm

Better schedule?

displacedute

11/20/19 8:13pm

Sorry if me being a knowledgeable sports fan bothers you.

DocPimp

11/20/19 9:21pm

You're just making stuff up, stupid stuff at that...

CoachSpeak

11/21/19 10:10am

Never said they would beat USC, would be a 50:50 game.

DocPimp

11/21/19 10:28am

Also, I get that the Pac12 is weak this yr (but not the worse of the P5’s)

DocPimp

11/21/19 11:04am

There's a vast divide b/t UMass and the PAC12 but there's also a divide b/t the PAC and other P5 conf.

Soupie

11/21/19 11:08am

Don’t understand the 500 comment?

DocPimp

11/21/19 11:29am

500 = won as many as lost . Like a batting average.

Soupie

11/21/19 11:37am

Like are you talking about years past? Why would that matter at all

DocPimp

11/21/19 5:54pm

Tennessee is also riddled with 4 and 5 star recruits...

CoachSpeak

11/21/19 11:30am

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DocPimp

11/21/19 11:37am

Here we bot agree. Lol hallelujah.

DocPimp

11/21/19 11:37am

A lot of delusion there...

CoachSpeak

11/20/19 7:51pm

What do you think Utah's record against BYU's schedule would be?

displacedute

11/20/19 7:52pm

One loss at least since we know they lost USC and maybe two...

CoachSpeak

11/20/19 8:11pm

In what world is it a tougher schedule?

displacedute

11/20/19 8:14pm

Utah would not have started 5-0. That stretch is too much.

MaxxPower

11/20/19 9:08pm

Yep. Already know they lose to USC. The question is how they'd respond to the travel & several

Soupie

11/20/19 9:15pm

The one where the majority of BYU’s opposition has winning records and bowl...

CoachSpeak

11/20/19 9:24pm

In his very biased world.

DocPimp

11/20/19 9:27pm

SoS: Utah’s is ranked #20, BYU’s is ranked #52

CrimsonCardinal

11/20/19 11:34pm

USC was at LA.

DocPimp

11/20/19 9:23pm

Pretty sure Utah lost to USC and BYU beat USC...

CoachSpeak

11/20/19 9:25pm

Yup Utah lost this yr.

DocPimp

11/20/19 9:47pm

That didn’t even make any sense 😂

CoachSpeak

11/20/19 9:50pm

I’ll put money on it.

DocPimp

11/20/19 10:06pm

I gave you a loss against USC.

CrimsonCardinal

11/20/19 11:37pm

Really? At point during the game did Utah have even a momentary lead?

Soupie

11/20/19 9:26pm

It was a one possession game. Y’all act like they got blown out.

DocPimp

11/20/19 9:30pm

That defense got thrashed by Matt Fink.

Jeff75

11/20/19 9:32pm

Agreed.

DocPimp

11/20/19 9:51pm

Georgia has better wins.

Jeff75

11/20/19 9:55pm

Now you claim to deal in facts?

CoachSpeak

11/20/19 9:32pm

Yup facts.

DocPimp

11/20/19 9:52pm

Scoreboard! How's that for avoiding hypotheticals. Utah LOST to USC.

Soupie

11/20/19 9:34pm

I agree, see above.

DocPimp

11/20/19 9:53pm

Not really in the hunt. They are highly ranked, but have mountain to climb.

Jeff75

11/20/19 9:56pm

I’d send you some links.

DocPimp

11/20/19 10:08pm

What do links have to do with anything.

Jeff75

11/20/19 10:12pm

You really don’r follow college football at all.

DocPimp

11/20/19 10:52pm

Obviously more than you do.

Jeff75

11/21/19 6:21am

They need exactly two things:

DocPimp

11/21/19 10:33am

I actually 100% believe you do watch more CF than me. Which makes all this even

DocPimp

11/21/19 10:34am

I watch about 10 games per week.

Jeff75

11/21/19 10:39am

Lol that is a ton, and truth be told I am a little jealous.

DocPimp

11/21/19 11:25am

PS. What is your favorite soup?

DocPimp

11/20/19 9:53pm

RE: PS. What is your favorite soup?

Soupie

11/20/19 10:11pm

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