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Mar 19, 2020
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to be even semi-persuasive to anyone but the choir.

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There needs to be a frank public discussion about the value of human life.

boogers

3/19/20 9:34am

Sounds like we need to set up death panels

DapperDan

3/19/20 9:36am

His point is that we have. We don’t shut down the country for 80,000 lives

Brigham

3/19/20 9:37am

Sure Dan. That's a valid response. How much do YOU think we should pay

boogers

3/19/20 9:38am

Is that what you think we have to combat the flu?

YIsForBrigham

3/19/20 9:39am

I'm not sure what you are asking. Regardless of what he have to combat

boogers

3/19/20 9:41am

To combat the flu we have vaccines that many people eschew, and antiviral

DapperDan

3/19/20 9:41am

We could also mandate current measures and drastically reduce that number even

boogers

3/19/20 9:42am

Yet 80,000 people still die and we as a society accept that. Sad. But true.

YIsForBrigham

3/19/20 9:45am

RE: There needs to be a frank public discussion about the value of human life.

BigTex

3/19/20 9:37am

Also about saving for rainy days

Gustav

3/19/20 9:39am

I think it goes to show that the government is expecting far more

kimdaddy35

3/19/20 9:46am

I'm not sure that is true. I think if politicians tried to say 80k is acceptable

boogers

3/19/20 9:48am

Again if you look at the timeline we reacted right after Imperial

kimdaddy35

3/19/20 9:52am

So we think 2.2 million it too many. What number is OK and when will we know

boogers

3/19/20 9:58am

Good questions that would be debated in Congress for

kimdaddy35

3/19/20 10:03am

How many people would have died if we didn’t do this social distancing thing? That’s the number we need to compare to

shimmy

3/19/20 9:48am

I don't know what the number is. It is at least 80k. But we should be

boogers

3/19/20 9:50am

Agreed. I hope we don’t bail out big businesses. 0-interest loans maybe. I hope the only people bailed out are small

shimmy

3/19/20 10:00am

Agree 100%

cougfanz

3/19/20 10:08am

Tough conversation to have as a republican/conservative given abortion

Troy McClure

3/19/20 10:20am

Also undermines an anti-euthanasia stance, especially for older people.

Troy McClure

3/19/20 10:26am

yup.

boogers

3/19/20 10:40am

Not really. Electing to actively end the life of another human verse allowing nature to run its course is not close to

YIsForBrigham

3/19/20 10:46am

The philosophy on this is not nearly as settled as you are proclaiming.

joelvandyne

3/19/20 10:51am

I'm not saying the debate over how much we should do to save lives is settled, but conflating abortion verse

YIsForBrigham

3/19/20 12:00pm

If they're not struggling with that, they should. That is, at least if they want

joelvandyne

3/19/20 12:40pm

There is no persuasion in the abortion debate. It’s a fool’s errand

YIsForBrigham

3/19/20 1:33pm

What a defeatist, self-fulfilling prophecy.

joelvandyne

3/19/20 7:51pm

By choosing economy over life saving actions, it's very comparable.

Troy McClure

3/19/20 10:54am

It's not

YIsForBrigham

3/19/20 11:57am

Fair enough.

Troy McClure

3/19/20 12:53pm

It's part of a larger convo on end of life care

runnincoug

3/19/20 10:23am

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