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Jan 26, 2021
11:45:25pm
Rhubarb Walk-on
I feel like this is important to argue on a sports chat board

People saying borderline HOFer? The dude was consistently great in the regular season for 15 years - and totally dominant in the playoffs - maybe not as clutch as Derek Jeter but up there. He pitched 20 years - first 12 out of 14 years he pitched for sub 500 teams: first 3 out of 4 years with bad teams; goes to Phillies where 9 out of 10 of his teams were crap (where he dominated) and had the Philllies had losing records every year with the exception being the '93 Phillies. Finally got traded to a good team at 33 years old. Went a lifetime 216-146; 3.46 ERA; over 3,000 K's (15th all-time), 80.5 career WAR for pitchers (26th all-time); career 1.137 WHIP (57th all-time). Was a lifetime 11-2 in the playoffs with an absurd 2.23 ERA.

Went to a total of 4 WS, won 3 of them. Curt Schilling and Randy Johnson singlehandedly (double-handedly?) won the WS for Arizona and was WS MVP against one of the best Yankee teams ever. Goes to the Red Sox and but for his heroics in Game 6 of the ALCS, the Red Sox might be traumatized so bad they wait another 80 years before they win a WS. Did I shamelessly use Baseball Reference to make my point? Yes because it was important.

Lastly according to JAWS rankings, for starting pitchers in the Hall of Fame he would be about it in the middle/average for all HOF starting pitchers (average for HOFers is 65, Schilling's at 64). There are literally 40 starting pitchers ranked lower that are in the Hall of Fame. That's not on the border, that's like illegally immigrating to Canada, blowing past the Canadian border patrol and making it to Edmonton. His JAWS ranking is better than HOFers Mike Mussina, Tom Glavine, Nolan Ryan, Jim Palmer, Bob Feller, Roy Halladay, Juan Marichal, Don Drysdale, Dazzy Vance, and Don Sutton. Compared to even these HOF pitchers, he's one of the best when looking at playoff dominance. Compared to his contemporaries I would choose him over just about anyone for durability, excellence, and playoff dominance. 

 

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