it's not a definitive rejection of Drew's assertion. He said "I can't recall..."

Jan 28, 2021
12:11:31pm

icecougar Truly Addicted User

...so for his statement to be incorrect you'd have to establish that he does recall games where BYU won despite McCall's officiating. How are you going to do that?

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Niiineteeen84

1/27/21 8:09pm

What other games has he officiated?

ldssdl

1/27/21 8:25pm

He allowed SDSU to tackle Tyler Haws at the end of regulation in Maui a few years back.

slatecoug

1/27/21 10:51pm

I knew we were in big trouble when I saw him

aaronmania

1/27/21 8:39pm

Seems like data should be available on this. Anyone know where it could be found to prove/disprove this hypothesis?

Greg Kite's 'stache

1/27/21 9:08pm

This! Someone who likes spending time on this crap make it happen!

ColonelMustard

1/28/21 4:03pm

Here's the data:

Elvis

1/27/21 9:30pm

Source?

ldssdl

1/27/21 9:37pm

Well, that would seem to indicate that the assertion made isn't accurate. Funny what happens when you use actual data.

Greg Kite's 'stache

1/27/21 9:57pm

Except all you have to do is go back and watch the end of the game against SDSU in Maui

slatecoug

1/27/21 10:54pm

The statement by Jay Drew is “I can't remember a game that Randy McCall officiated that BYU won”

Greg Kite's 'stache

1/27/21 11:19pm

There's nothing wrong with Drew's statement. He didn't say "in the research I'v

wiscougarfan

1/28/21 6:31am

it's not a definitive rejection of Drew's assertion. He said "I can't recall..."

icecougar

1/28/21 12:11pm

That's because McCall has had some really bad late game officiating performances in games BYU has played.

slatecoug

1/28/21 2:25pm

Good take. Just because byu has won 50% means nothing. It’s not like a ref can

ColonelMustard

1/28/21 4:05pm

So Drew's statement was about his poor memory, not about biased officiating.

ptcougr

1/28/21 4:23am

However, those stats DO suggest it makes a negative difference when he refs.

jkccoug

1/28/21 3:58pm

What did the advanced metrics/Vegas lines say SHOULD have been our record?

jkccoug

1/28/21 3:50pm

Our overall win % during that timeframe is 68%. But only 53% with that ref, so

jkccoug

1/28/21 3:56pm

Just because byu has won with him on the floor means nothing

ColonelMustard

1/28/21 4:07pm

Seems like our record in close games with him reffing would be more telling.

byuinva

1/28/21 4:18pm

I went back and looked up game reports...

Elvis

1/27/21 10:25pm

that one series near the end where they had over the back, a charge, was

bald man

1/28/21 5:20am

Would be fun to get the advanced metrics and point spreads and compare BYU's

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