Of course. If you're, say, Cincy, UCF, Houston, and Memphis, would you rather

Jul 22, 2021
12:51:27pm

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be in a conference with Kansas, K-State, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, WVU, TT, TCU, and Baylor or ECU, USF, SMU, Temple, Tulane, and Tulsa? It's not even close by any measure.

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If this happens with OU/TX then the Big 12 will stick together short term and

kimdaddy35

7/22/21 12:17pm

If they add BYU, BSU, Cinci and UCF they do.

Turnpike Lane

7/22/21 12:18pm

That is a lot of travel. More than any other conference I can think of ever

kimdaddy35

7/22/21 12:19pm

Modern travel makes it easy. And for football, it is what BYU is already doing as is.

Turnpike Lane

7/22/21 12:20pm

By far the best programs available. Those 4 are in a clear class of their own so it’s really the only move if the big12

YIsForBrigham

7/22/21 12:20pm

Houston gets in ahead of Boise. Adds more to the conference and much closer.

Scratch

7/22/21 12:24pm

Houston adds almost nothing. They don’t even have fans in their own city.

YIsForBrigham

7/22/21 12:25pm

Boise's attendance was only about 3K higher in 2018 and 6K higher in 2019.

Scratch

7/22/21 12:34pm

Misleading. Houston’s attendance is frequently dominated by the visiting team. And they still didn’t reach Boise which

YIsForBrigham

7/22/21 12:38pm

True. Just look to last year BYU @ Houston

CelticCoug

7/22/21 12:49pm

Nowhere near enough to overcome Houston's other benefits to the B12.

Scratch

7/22/21 12:52pm

There are none

YIsForBrigham

7/22/21 1:41pm

OK, but if Kansas bolts to the B10, they are next. Those are clear best 5 left.

Turnpike Lane

7/22/21 12:25pm

Probably, but Memphis and FedEx would like a word. As would UNLV.

Scratch

7/22/21 12:29pm

I agree, which then begs the question do you add SMU instead of BYU

kimdaddy35

7/22/21 12:25pm

Memphis over SMU.

Scratch

7/22/21 12:30pm

If you are UCF or Cincy, do you want to join an OU/TX-less Big 12?

CougarVeteran

7/22/21 12:44pm

Of course. If you're, say, Cincy, UCF, Houston, and Memphis, would you rather

Scratch

7/22/21 12:51pm

Notice the post I'm responding to doesn't include Houston or Memphis

CougarVeteran

7/22/21 1:07pm

P5 won’t exist anymore with the new playoff model. That label doesn’t matter

YIsForBrigham

7/22/21 12:19pm

I believe conference champions get auto bids. That would matter to me.

kimdaddy35

7/22/21 12:20pm

6 do. So P5 means nothing. In that context, this new big12 could easily (and rightfully) call themselves a power

YIsForBrigham

7/22/21 12:20pm

If this happens no way they stick with autobids for 6 conferences. Drops to 5.

Scratch

7/22/21 12:25pm

YIsForBrigham

7/22/21 12:25pm

Right, but which conferences get the 6 auto bids is not defined (as of yet)

rggee

7/22/21 12:20pm

Top 6 ranked conference champs get auto bids doesn't matter which 6 conferences

Kajdin

7/22/21 12:21pm

All the more important reason to keep the BIG 12 alive... for now.

Cougar TD

7/22/21 12:22pm

Right. I think it’s a strong motivator to stick together and expand

YIsForBrigham

7/22/21 12:24pm

P5 is irrelevant in the new playoff model. Could have years where PAC-12 doesn’t

Dangerous

7/22/21 12:23pm

who is the governing body for the playoff?

claw

7/22/21 12:32pm

Most of those listed teams have had recent football success

LiveCoug

7/22/21 12:21pm

You're assuming those teams don't get added to another conference...

Coug

7/22/21 12:25pm

is P5 even a thing in basketball in terms of benefits?

hxmCougar2000

7/22/21 12:25pm

Assuming this forces ND to the ACC, they still need one more school too

darkcoug

7/22/21 12:26pm

WV? Cincinnati?

rggee

7/22/21 12:29pm

Football brings in 4x that of which basketball brings in at the avg D1 school.

_Dakoko

7/22/21 12:27pm

Again, the B12 leftovers have had recent football success.

LiveCoug

7/22/21 12:31pm

I wouldn’t be surprised if Nebraska finds their way back to the Big 12.

thaskoozcoug

7/22/21 12:34pm

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