Did somebody say Karl Havoc?!

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Sep 21, 2021
11:05:54am

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Did somebody say Karl Havoc?!

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HotspurCoug

Previous username: anyonebutUtah
Bio page: HotspurCoug
Joined: Dec 4, 2015
Last login: Nov 9, 2022
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This has always been my issue with Tuiaki's defense:

nephicoug All-American

9/21/21 8:00am

Here's a visualization of BYU's trend in Total Havoc over the years:

nephicoug

9/21/21 8:02am

In fairness, FBS independents historically are bad at creating havoc. It’s just

DieHarder

9/21/21 8:04am

What is Havoc?

violetjazz

9/21/21 8:02am

Read this article:

nephicoug

9/21/21 8:03am

So…a big component is stealing offensive playcalling? That’s unfortunate.

maizecoug

9/21/21 8:11am

Lesser known X-man. Bother of Cyclops. Power to absorb ambient cosmic energy

Sir_Ten

9/21/21 8:06am

RE: What is Havoc?

mm73

9/21/21 12:42pm

A new mutant superhero?

scott715

9/21/21 1:45pm

A new strain of COVID?

ArcticKat

9/21/21 1:54pm

2018? This defense is not the D from 2018. I would wager that we aren't in that corner this year.

RoaroftheCougartails

9/21/21 8:03am

We aren't. We are much improved this year. Like I said, Kalani has said in interviews that they are focused on producing

nephicoug

9/21/21 8:04am

6 forced turnovers this year through 3 games… although one goes to the offense;)

Powerbait DPM

9/21/21 8:08am

The current strategy gives away yards, field position, and momentum. Importantly

9/21/21 8:05am

Remember Bronco's "total disruption" mantra when he first came here as DC?

shoganai

9/21/21 8:06am

Ziggy only started like 4 games, right?

4thand19

9/21/21 9:27am

You're half right.

CougarThug

9/21/21 11:33am

A lot of that is not having the horses in the secondary to be able to create

SUAVO

9/21/21 8:07am

He had to have more horses at BYU than he did and NM?

9/21/21 10:37am

NM?

SUAVO

9/21/21 10:45am

New Mexico, guess it is UNM? Sorry

9/21/21 11:55am

He coached at New Mexico?

SUAVO

9/21/21 2:34pm

Yea Bronco did, he was the DC there. They brought him up and I was replying to

9/21/21 3:11pm

Lol. You use a chart but not from this year, last year, or the year before that

Blueto

9/21/21 8:09am

The last one that was available. I wouldn't count last year considering who we played.

nephicoug

9/21/21 8:17am

Last year when we played 12 D1 teams? I bet you would have counted it if we

Blueto

9/21/21 8:24am

Most of those teams are teams we'll probably never play again - that we only played because it's all we could get

nephicoug

9/21/21 8:26am

Ok, here you go. BYU had 117 havoc plays out of 793 total defensive plays, or 14.8% - below the national average

nephicoug

9/21/21 8:29am

Um, Houston and UCF are literally joining the B12 with us. BSU and SDSU are

Blueto

9/21/21 9:35am

Seriously?

DocIzzy

9/21/21 10:34am

Did somebody say Karl Havoc?!

HotspurCoug

9/21/21 11:05am

He drops 8 and lets the offense make its own mistakes

GeraldGarner

9/21/21 11:19am

Utah game is evidence of deeper talent and evolution of our DC

BYUgoslav

9/21/21 11:24am

Seems like a strange time air a beef about Tuiaki’s defense.

9/21/21 11:46am

It's not a beef. It WAS a beef. If you look at my other posts on havoc today, we've actually IMPROVED quite a bit in

nephicoug

9/21/21 1:11pm

Who even cares if they keep points off the board. No one!

byucougs9

9/21/21 12:41pm

Good argument to make, right after a game where we got 4 turnovers... ...

here's to hoping

9/21/21 1:32pm

Those TOs prove my argument. My argument is that BYU is getting much better at creating Havoc

nephicoug

9/21/21 2:12pm

Maybe something about getting better should be included in your OP, instead of

here's to hoping

9/21/21 3:04pm

There had been some other threads about it previously and I followed up on this thread with other posts about our

nephicoug

9/21/21 3:24pm

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