The ground can't cause a fumble, but it can cause incompletions. He needed to

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Sep 26, 2016
10:45:57am

cheezedawg All-American

maintain control while in bounds and maintain it through the whole fall.

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I said it during the game, and I'll say it again

Bgash Playmaker

9/26/16 9:02am

The ball is moving - no way replay overturns that

OC Coug

9/26/16 9:03am

Yeah, if his left hand had stayed on the ball, then it would have been different

cheezedawg

9/26/16 9:05am

Moving in what way? He secures it in his right hand and then pulls it down

Indy Coug

9/26/16 9:05am

His left hand leaves it and he resets when he is out of bounds

OC Coug

9/26/16 9:06am

Watching it for the 25th time I can see why you could argue that its a one

OC Coug

9/26/16 9:10am

So it's not a catch because after he caught it, he put his left hand on it?

Fightgar

9/26/16 9:39am

Its moving, it looks like when the left hand leaves that its moving to try and

OC Coug

9/26/16 9:48am

"Moving" is not the criteria

Bgash

9/26/16 9:59am

That is my recollection too. After he landed (after this vine stops) the ball

cheezedawg

9/26/16 9:10am

While out of bounds

Deleted

9/26/16 9:07am

This angle doesn't it show it. But the angle from the other side, shows is move again after he lands out of bounds.

SpiffCoug

9/26/16 9:58am

Solid in his right hand the whole way through

Dillinger

9/26/16 11:25am

Remind me what ended up happening that drive?

cheezedawg

9/26/16 9:03am

That was a 2 point conversion that would have tied at 21.

gww687

9/26/16 9:09am

Initially they only showed the sideline camera angle...

Hawk in the 303

9/26/16 9:09am

That's closer than I originally thought but it wouldn't have changed the outcome.

NihonCougar

9/26/16 9:11am

If a FG wins we would have. We were trying to win in regulation which is fine by

fulano

9/26/16 9:27am

It likely cost us 3 points by not making that catch.

viper

9/26/16 10:06am

Absolutely correct.

bluesloth

9/26/16 10:13am

Maybe because of the left hand... but compare it to the catch in the CU-Oregon

Tokolosh

9/26/16 9:11am

I was surprised by the overturn there, but it was a heck of a grab

gww687

9/26/16 9:13am

Not a catch IMO. Ball is clearly moving

spugeddy24

9/26/16 9:13am

Totally a catch! If he would have only been trying to "one-hand" it,

Fightgar

9/26/16 9:30am

Zero question. It was a catch. And a play that will earn the reviewing

tiloman

9/26/16 9:48am

I said so during game also. Ball was in his hands the whole time.

Count Cougar

9/26/16 9:56am

Everyone, I don't think "moving" is a criteria. He clearly had control of the ball the entire time.

Bgash

9/26/16 10:01am

The kind of movement seen here, especially after this vine ends, indicates that

cheezedawg

9/26/16 10:42am

When is a catch complete? If I threw you a fastball and you jabbed your hand up

Fightgar

9/26/16 10:25am

The ground can't cause a fumble, but it can cause incompletions. He needed to

cheezedawg

9/26/16 10:45am

so you think it moved out of his right hand when he landed?

Fightgar

9/26/16 11:19am

In the other angles that show the whole thing, yes, clearly

cheezedawg

9/26/16 12:11pm

link?

Fightgar

9/26/16 12:13pm

RE: link?

SpiffCoug

9/26/16 12:30pm

They don't show the whole thing here. It bounced just after this clip ends.

Circaman12

9/26/16 11:33am

where does it say you have to have both hands on the ball?

Fightgar

9/26/16 11:55am

You don't. But from another angle you can clearly see the ball move after he is laying out of bounds.

SpiffCoug

9/26/16 12:03pm

it moves out of his right hand?

Fightgar

9/26/16 12:12pm

Agreed. Is this type of play reviewable or can it be challenged?

RUNBYU1

9/26/16 12:35pm

Here's a clip of the whole catch

OPINIONS

9/26/16 12:36pm

I think it's a catch, but you'll never see an incomplete call overturned on that

OPINIONS

9/26/16 12:38pm

Yeah I guess it might be hard to overturn that. Maybe if they had called it a catch on the field.

Bgash

9/26/16 12:40pm

From that angle it looks more like a catch than the reverse angle.

SpiffCoug

9/26/16 12:41pm

the ball shifted as his back went to the ground. I never thought it was a catch.

Adrielle

9/26/16 1:07pm

The other angle was bad. I think it had it in one hand. They never even review

IronPotato

9/26/16 1:34pm

I just wish the rule would be changed back to what it used to be in

BYUJoJo

9/26/16 3:42pm

So even if your sitting out of bounds while still juggling it, you want that to a catch?

SpiffCoug

9/26/16 3:56pm

Totally. It seems reasonable that you have to at least demonstrate clear

cheezedawg

9/26/16 4:05pm

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