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Sep 26, 2016
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Bgash
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Everyone, I don't think "moving" is a criteria. He clearly had control of the ball the entire time.
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I said it during the game, and I'll say it again
Bgash
Playmaker
9/26/16 9:02am
The ball is moving - no way replay overturns that
OC Coug
9/26/16 9:03am
Yeah, if his left hand had stayed on the ball, then it would have been different
cheezedawg
9/26/16 9:05am
Moving in what way? He secures it in his right hand and then pulls it down
Indy Coug
9/26/16 9:05am
His left hand leaves it and he resets when he is out of bounds
OC Coug
9/26/16 9:06am
Watching it for the 25th time I can see why you could argue that its a one
OC Coug
9/26/16 9:10am
So it's not a catch because after he caught it, he put his left hand on it?
Fightgar
9/26/16 9:39am
Its moving, it looks like when the left hand leaves that its moving to try and
OC Coug
9/26/16 9:48am
"Moving" is not the criteria
Bgash
9/26/16 9:59am
That is my recollection too. After he landed (after this vine stops) the ball
cheezedawg
9/26/16 9:10am
This angle doesn't it show it. But the angle from the other side, shows is move again after he lands out of bounds.
SpiffCoug
9/26/16 9:58am
Solid in his right hand the whole way through
Dillinger
9/26/16 11:25am
Remind me what ended up happening that drive?
cheezedawg
9/26/16 9:03am
That was a 2 point conversion that would have tied at 21.
gww687
9/26/16 9:09am
Initially they only showed the sideline camera angle...
Hawk in the 303
9/26/16 9:09am
That's closer than I originally thought but it wouldn't have changed the outcome.
NihonCougar
9/26/16 9:11am
If a FG wins we would have. We were trying to win in regulation which is fine by
fulano
9/26/16 9:27am
It likely cost us 3 points by not making that catch.
viper
9/26/16 10:06am
Absolutely correct.
bluesloth
9/26/16 10:13am
Maybe because of the left hand... but compare it to the catch in the CU-Oregon
Tokolosh
9/26/16 9:11am
I was surprised by the overturn there, but it was a heck of a grab
gww687
9/26/16 9:13am
Not a catch IMO. Ball is clearly moving
spugeddy24
9/26/16 9:13am
Totally a catch! If he would have only been trying to "one-hand" it,
Fightgar
9/26/16 9:30am
Zero question. It was a catch. And a play that will earn the reviewing
tiloman
9/26/16 9:48am
I said so during game also. Ball was in his hands the whole time.
Count Cougar
9/26/16 9:56am
Everyone, I don't think "moving" is a criteria. He clearly had control of the ball the entire time.
Bgash
9/26/16 10:01am
The kind of movement seen here, especially after this vine ends, indicates that
cheezedawg
9/26/16 10:42am
When is a catch complete? If I threw you a fastball and you jabbed your hand up
Fightgar
9/26/16 10:25am
The ground can't cause a fumble, but it can cause incompletions. He needed to
cheezedawg
9/26/16 10:45am
so you think it moved out of his right hand when he landed?
Fightgar
9/26/16 11:19am
In the other angles that show the whole thing, yes, clearly
cheezedawg
9/26/16 12:11pm
link?
Fightgar
9/26/16 12:13pm
RE: link?
SpiffCoug
9/26/16 12:30pm
They don't show the whole thing here. It bounced just after this clip ends.
Circaman12
9/26/16 11:33am
where does it say you have to have both hands on the ball?
Fightgar
9/26/16 11:55am
You don't. But from another angle you can clearly see the ball move after he is laying out of bounds.
SpiffCoug
9/26/16 12:03pm
it moves out of his right hand?
Fightgar
9/26/16 12:12pm
Agreed. Is this type of play reviewable or can it be challenged?
RUNBYU1
9/26/16 12:35pm
Here's a clip of the whole catch
OPINIONS
9/26/16 12:36pm
I think it's a catch, but you'll never see an incomplete call overturned on that
OPINIONS
9/26/16 12:38pm
Yeah I guess it might be hard to overturn that. Maybe if they had called it a catch on the field.
Bgash
9/26/16 12:40pm
From that angle it looks more like a catch than the reverse angle.
SpiffCoug
9/26/16 12:41pm
the ball shifted as his back went to the ground. I never thought it was a catch.
Adrielle
9/26/16 1:07pm
The other angle was bad. I think it had it in one hand. They never even review
IronPotato
9/26/16 1:34pm
I just wish the rule would be changed back to what it used to be in
BYUJoJo
9/26/16 3:42pm
So even if your sitting out of bounds while still juggling it, you want that to a catch?
SpiffCoug
9/26/16 3:56pm
Totally. It seems reasonable that you have to at least demonstrate clear
cheezedawg
9/26/16 4:05pm
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