I just wish the rule would be changed back to what it used to be in

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Sep 26, 2016
3:42:38pm

BYUJoJo Walk-on

I just wish the rule would be changed back to what it used to be in

the "olden days." That is, regardless of whether the ball is juggled or not, if the ball never touches the ground, it is a catch. That takes all the subjectivity (and therefore the officials) out of it. To me, one of the stupidist "no catch" calls came when Dez Bryant clearly caught the ball, but juggled it slightly when he tried to get in the endzone. The ball never touched the ground, yet because of the juggle, he not only didn't score, but the ball was called incomplete.

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BYUJoJo

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I said it during the game, and I'll say it again

Bgash Playmaker

9/26/16 9:02am

The ball is moving - no way replay overturns that

OC Coug

9/26/16 9:03am

Yeah, if his left hand had stayed on the ball, then it would have been different

cheezedawg

9/26/16 9:05am

Moving in what way? He secures it in his right hand and then pulls it down

Indy Coug

9/26/16 9:05am

His left hand leaves it and he resets when he is out of bounds

OC Coug

9/26/16 9:06am

Watching it for the 25th time I can see why you could argue that its a one

OC Coug

9/26/16 9:10am

So it's not a catch because after he caught it, he put his left hand on it?

Fightgar

9/26/16 9:39am

Its moving, it looks like when the left hand leaves that its moving to try and

OC Coug

9/26/16 9:48am

"Moving" is not the criteria

Bgash

9/26/16 9:59am

That is my recollection too. After he landed (after this vine stops) the ball

cheezedawg

9/26/16 9:10am

This angle doesn't it show it. But the angle from the other side, shows is move again after he lands out of bounds.

SpiffCoug

9/26/16 9:58am

Solid in his right hand the whole way through

Dillinger

9/26/16 11:25am

Remind me what ended up happening that drive?

cheezedawg

9/26/16 9:03am

That was a 2 point conversion that would have tied at 21.

gww687

9/26/16 9:09am

Initially they only showed the sideline camera angle...

Hawk in the 303

9/26/16 9:09am

That's closer than I originally thought but it wouldn't have changed the outcome.

NihonCougar

9/26/16 9:11am

If a FG wins we would have. We were trying to win in regulation which is fine by

fulano

9/26/16 9:27am

It likely cost us 3 points by not making that catch.

viper

9/26/16 10:06am

Absolutely correct.

bluesloth

9/26/16 10:13am

Maybe because of the left hand... but compare it to the catch in the CU-Oregon

Tokolosh

9/26/16 9:11am

I was surprised by the overturn there, but it was a heck of a grab

gww687

9/26/16 9:13am

Not a catch IMO. Ball is clearly moving

spugeddy24

9/26/16 9:13am

Totally a catch! If he would have only been trying to "one-hand" it,

Fightgar

9/26/16 9:30am

Zero question. It was a catch. And a play that will earn the reviewing

tiloman

9/26/16 9:48am

I said so during game also. Ball was in his hands the whole time.

Count Cougar

9/26/16 9:56am

Everyone, I don't think "moving" is a criteria. He clearly had control of the ball the entire time.

Bgash

9/26/16 10:01am

The kind of movement seen here, especially after this vine ends, indicates that

cheezedawg

9/26/16 10:42am

When is a catch complete? If I threw you a fastball and you jabbed your hand up

Fightgar

9/26/16 10:25am

The ground can't cause a fumble, but it can cause incompletions. He needed to

cheezedawg

9/26/16 10:45am

so you think it moved out of his right hand when he landed?

Fightgar

9/26/16 11:19am

In the other angles that show the whole thing, yes, clearly

cheezedawg

9/26/16 12:11pm

link?

Fightgar

9/26/16 12:13pm

RE: link?

SpiffCoug

9/26/16 12:30pm

They don't show the whole thing here. It bounced just after this clip ends.

Circaman12

9/26/16 11:33am

where does it say you have to have both hands on the ball?

Fightgar

9/26/16 11:55am

You don't. But from another angle you can clearly see the ball move after he is laying out of bounds.

SpiffCoug

9/26/16 12:03pm

it moves out of his right hand?

Fightgar

9/26/16 12:12pm

Agreed. Is this type of play reviewable or can it be challenged?

RUNBYU1

9/26/16 12:35pm

Here's a clip of the whole catch

OPINIONS

9/26/16 12:36pm

I think it's a catch, but you'll never see an incomplete call overturned on that

OPINIONS

9/26/16 12:38pm

Yeah I guess it might be hard to overturn that. Maybe if they had called it a catch on the field.

Bgash

9/26/16 12:40pm

From that angle it looks more like a catch than the reverse angle.

SpiffCoug

9/26/16 12:41pm

the ball shifted as his back went to the ground. I never thought it was a catch.

Adrielle

9/26/16 1:07pm

The other angle was bad. I think it had it in one hand. They never even review

IronPotato

9/26/16 1:34pm

I just wish the rule would be changed back to what it used to be in

BYUJoJo

9/26/16 3:42pm

So even if your sitting out of bounds while still juggling it, you want that to a catch?

SpiffCoug

9/26/16 3:56pm

Totally. It seems reasonable that you have to at least demonstrate clear

cheezedawg

9/26/16 4:05pm

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