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Apr 30, 2024
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Gustav
Intervention Needed
Once it changed the culture, the policy itself was probably irrelevant
Everyone has to invest everything into a kid to make him/her competitive. Can't afford to have more kids with the larger culture as it now is.
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One other interesting outcome of the impact of having less children
TNT
Apr 30, 2:53pm
Talk to Japan & Italy about that. Low birth rates threaten their economies.
Forzaitalia
Apr 30, 2:55pm
China is nearing a tipping point on the 1 child policy. It'll be 3-4 years and we'll see bad effects there.
Tokolosh
Apr 30, 2:55pm
The folly of the 1 child mandate is a real problem for China. Myopic political
Forzaitalia
Apr 30, 2:57pm
The irony is that the policy was unnecessary. They scrapped it years ago, but
Japan Coug
Apr 30, 2:59pm
Once it changed the culture, the policy itself was probably irrelevant
Gustav
Apr 30, 3:03pm
I don’t even think it did that. China is just like everyone else now. It didn’t
Japan Coug
Apr 30, 3:05pm
Maybe, but it probably accelerated it and locked it in at one, instead of two
Gustav
Apr 30, 3:10pm
It accelerated it, but China’s fertility rate was never 1.0. Today it’s 1.7
Japan Coug
Apr 30, 3:28pm
Interesting, that's higher than I thought
Gustav
Apr 30, 3:29pm
Some claim it’s actually much worse than 1.4. China has a big problem
BR549
Apr 30, 7:23pm
Sure, but so do many other countries that never had a 1-child policy. For
Japan Coug
Apr 30, 7:37pm
Cuturally, it used to be good to have large families in China. Once the culture
Parker Schnabel
Apr 30, 3:18pm
Yep as my BYU econ professor taught: children are an economic cost in the
Forzaitalia
Apr 30, 3:26pm
Taiwan’s fertility rate today is 1.2, lower than China’s at 1.7 (or 1.45 per the
Japan Coug
Apr 30, 3:30pm
Right, it is nuanced. In 1970, the fertility rate was 6.3 The one-child policy
Parker Schnabel
Apr 30, 3:48pm
Already seeing them. Demographics is a big factor in their RE crisis.
rad dawg
Apr 30, 2:59pm
Grandkids in China or grandkids here? There are still tons of people wanting to
Mitty
Apr 30, 3:02pm
Here. Immigration won't save us.
rad dawg
Apr 30, 3:05pm
And as far as feeling the effects, we already are starting to.
rad dawg
Apr 30, 3:13pm
Well, I don't know about save, but the housing shortage here is so bad I have
Mitty
Apr 30, 3:14pm
Housing shortages are localized and exaggerated.
rad dawg
Apr 30, 3:21pm
Immigration FTW.
Japan Coug
Apr 30, 2:57pm
Immigration, births, robots. Go firing on all cylinders.
Genghis Spreads
Apr 30, 2:58pm
"More and more people" sounds like a Ponzi scheme.
Cougar Junkie
Apr 30, 2:57pm
For years and years, it was "overpopulation will kill us!", now it's "uh oh"
Mitty
Apr 30, 3:00pm
Based on the data from each time period is this really a surprise?
AtomicHamster
Apr 30, 3:11pm
Russia also has a negative birth rate. That’s fueling Putins push for more
wildwilderness
Apr 30, 3:01pm
I'd be happy to give putin something he can do.
S-rizzle
Apr 30, 3:08pm
Putins response to neg birth rate is to get Russians killed in a protracted war.
Ycrazy
Apr 30, 3:18pm
Apparently starting a war is an excellent way to increase the population
CaliWG
Apr 30, 4:03pm
There can be an increase in births after a war... but Russia will most likely
wildwilderness
Apr 30, 5:40pm
*fewer
gangbusters
Apr 30, 3:04pm
Oh....hahahahahaha. Very funny. Ignore feature engaged!
TNT
Apr 30, 3:37pm
oe "lesser."
85fan
Apr 30, 4:23pm
We had a glimpse of that when trying to get people back to work during COVID
thewaterboy
Apr 30, 3:10pm
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