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Aug 21, 2014
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Nick Papagiorgio
Niu means coconut
In Hawaiian, Samoan, Tongan, and Tahitian. It could be a last name in more than one of those countries.
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How to quickly tell if player's name is Samoan or Tongan
chazen
8/21/14 3:18pm
I've always wondered - thanks!
CoopDizz
8/21/14 3:22pm
Malo
SaturdaySpecialDay
8/21/14 3:22pm
Are there Tongan names that have no ng, H or K?
Taco Zamuka
8/21/14 3:25pm
^a Tongan
Texas Hammer
8/21/14 3:26pm
Here are few:
Nick Papagiorgio
8/21/14 3:33pm
mahe?
jrob30
8/21/14 3:34pm
Yes. Example: Mahe, Reno
Nick Papagiorgio
8/21/14 3:38pm
But aren't you looking for examples without h? I'm confused
jrob30
8/21/14 3:44pm
Good catch. I think my mind is done for the day.
Nick Papagiorgio
8/21/14 3:47pm
Niu[matulolo] is Samoan.
ChinoCoug
8/21/14 3:53pm
Niu means coconut
Nick Papagiorgio
8/21/14 5:18pm
It is both, correct.
Heinz57
8/21/14 5:24pm
Of course. Some names are used in both cultures, too.
chazen
8/21/14 3:35pm
Wow. Interesting
TNT
8/21/14 3:25pm
favorited
Mayor of Cougartown
8/21/14 3:26pm
I used to chuckle to myself when a colleague of mine (big A&M booster) would
NOCAL_YFAN
8/21/14 3:27pm
Trying to come up with a "so Taysom Hill is a Tongan not Somoan" joke but
Blue Print
8/21/14 3:28pm
that was almost s good one
osbooks
8/21/14 5:07pm
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rivercitycoug
8/21/14 3:28pm
LOL. I'm half Samoan, half white
chazen
8/21/14 3:36pm
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rivercitycoug
8/21/14 3:44pm
Now I need a mnemonic device to remember those rules
billyrust
8/21/14 3:31pm
How about "Hawking is not Somoan"?
Blue Print
8/21/14 3:34pm
Or ToNGans are High Kings
okieboy
8/21/14 3:41pm
toNGan wears a tHongan to look like King Kongan
frontrowcougar
8/21/14 4:29pm
here's how i remember:
nashty
8/21/14 3:33pm
Well, now I know which one I'd rather smash into my face
NOCAL_YFAN
8/21/14 3:37pm
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Buffalo
8/21/14 3:34pm
yikes..shallow thinking my friend...
Desert Rat
8/21/14 3:39pm
Wow, that's some great info. What about a guy like former UA QB Willie Tuitama.
Conan O'Fresno
8/21/14 3:35pm
Samoan. Four of the 10 starting quarterbacks in the Pac10 were Samoan during
chazen
8/21/14 3:37pm
Jeremiah Masoli - UO, Tuitama - UA, Tavita Pritchard - Stan., Lyle Moevao - OSU
chazen
8/21/14 4:13pm
Also Marques Tuiasosopo at UW
SingleStrapBackpack
8/21/14 4:31pm
Tuiasosopo is a prominent Samoan family
Heinz57
8/21/14 4:50pm
I'm talking about during the same year. These 4 started for their respective
chazen
8/21/14 7:09pm
Yep, I know what you meant
SingleStrapBackpack
8/21/14 7:33pm
You would know his family name and island
Heinz57
8/21/14 3:37pm
Is it still that easy to tell?
molodyets
8/21/14 3:48pm
In conversations with family members that is usually the first thing
Heinz57
8/21/14 3:52pm
I've always been fascinated by Poly culture. It blows my mind that it's
molodyets
8/21/14 3:54pm
Polys are better orally in talking about records than actually written records
Heinz57
8/21/14 3:57pm
Interest fact:
Nick Papagiorgio
8/21/14 3:38pm
That is an awesome board name - Fork Boy
NOCAL_YFAN
8/21/14 3:39pm
Fork boy/guy would be tama tui
chazen
8/21/14 3:39pm
Does Tui have any significance in the history of Samoa
Heinz57
8/21/14 3:41pm
I don't know. I just know the tui that means fork, needle or poke.
chazen
8/21/14 7:10pm
definitely
Sale
8/21/14 7:55pm
Fijian, Tonga and Samoa can be traced to the Tui line...
Heinz57
8/22/14 7:46am
Yeah, can anyone explain the origin of using Willie as a first name?
Belboz
8/21/14 3:39pm
Handed down
Heinz57
8/21/14 3:43pm
8 cows Mr. Harris! So that's where the Harris line comes from.
NOCAL_YFAN
8/21/14 3:46pm
Some Billy's dad had a speech impediment.
Mantis Mutu
8/21/14 3:46pm
Or, just call him a Samoan
Sea Chicken
8/21/14 3:38pm
and vice-versa
chazen
8/21/14 3:39pm
And he smiles if he's Fijian or
Mantis Mutu
8/21/14 3:43pm
was bronco's mispronunciation of these names the thing he refused to do?
Beggar
8/21/14 3:45pm
BM me and I'll tell you
chazen
8/21/14 4:07pm
Simple rule...
Heinz57
8/21/14 4:15pm
How to tell if a player's name is Hawaiian
BangkokCoug
8/21/14 4:00pm
Hawaiian pronounce the W like it's a V. They say "Ha-vie-ee".
SoValleyCOUG
8/21/14 4:14pm
Proper way to say it
Heinz57
8/21/14 4:16pm
Not always, often it makes the w sound, just depends on situation: waikiki, auwe
haYnCoug
8/21/14 5:43pm
So the Somoan language doesn't use "K", "H", or "ng". The Tongan language does.
Blue Cougar
8/21/14 4:46pm
Tongan K, H, & Ng = Samoan C, " ", & G. Right or wrong?
Mantis Mutu
8/21/14 4:58pm
The Samoan language has adopted H, K and R strictly for foreign words
chazen
8/21/14 7:08pm
Which explains why "Hong Kong" was quickly dismissed as original Samoan capital
BamaCoug
8/21/14 4:55pm
There ... I just gave everyone a mnemonic to remember these rules
BamaCoug
8/21/14 5:02pm
have you folks forgotten these past lessons already?
Sale
8/21/14 5:01pm
If it sounds like you are having a seizure when you pronounce it
Mars
8/21/14 5:02pm
RE: How to quickly tell if player's name is Samoan or Tongan
Mana'o
8/21/14 5:12pm
With a "T". Pronounced with the "k" sound in informal conversation. You should
chazen
8/21/14 7:07pm
There are some words that will never be spelled with a "t"
Sale
8/21/14 7:40pm
Are you sure those are Samoan names? They could have mixed ancestry.
chazen
8/22/14 3:26am
Yeah. There were actually a couple other last names I noticed before
Sale
8/23/14 3:30am
so Fui Vakapuna is Tongan! (with a K)
kiyoshige
8/21/14 5:21pm
Yes, Fui is Tongan
Heinz57
8/21/14 5:24pm
In colloquial spoken Samoan, the t is replaced with the k sound...
Florwood
8/21/14 7:06pm
The Tongan would win at a eating contest.
digitalayon
8/21/14 7:37pm
agreed
Sale
8/21/14 7:47pm
You went there? LOL
chazen
8/21/14 10:40pm
well he wanted the difference.....put'em at the buffet chow line!
digitalayon
8/22/14 12:51pm
RE: How to quickly tell if player's name is Samoan or Tongan
cmort21
8/22/14 2:55pm
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